If humanity's collective consciousness created a "god" out of their desire of purpose and a reason for their suffering...

Holy shit the thread was so early I missed it

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stop being retarded, the IoE it's been referenced through all of Berserk at this point, remember when Void said "a god born from man" for instance

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I guess that makes the author himself retarded

They just removed 83 with all it's exposition. The heart is shown on the last page of 82

Why do you assume someone had to create humans?

Those are worthless questions to ask because the story, the setting and the author himself aren't interested in exploring what the answers would be. In a story about the human condition and the place of man in an absurd and sometimes hopeless world, you're asking about what is the chemical composition of the planet. It's just not relevant.

then, why does humanity have the power to create "gods" that can manipulate reality out of fucking thin air? maybe the real god in Berserk doesn't care about it's creation or it's just a witness to the event's taking place

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how is Guts supposed to battle let alone defeat Femto and co. then?

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Berserk is a magical world. Whose to say simply because humans believed gods existed they cam into being?

Humans develop consciousness. Collective consciousness give birth to something else. It's a pretty simple logic chain to follow. Miura isn't interested about the logistics of "God" themselves, how the world came to be, who was the first to create what and if there is a higher being behind it all. The story isn't about that at all. It's not some mystery novel where clues unveiled along the way eventually lead to a grand realization.

Storytime today or tomorrow?

I don't know, maybe you should have started your thread with that question, which is almost entirely separate from the initial one.

then the bad guys are just unbeatable? magical creatures that have nothing to do with humanity nor the IoE spawned from nowhere but can aid our heroes from who knows what source of power?

not quite, if humanity created a "god" devoted to evil and carnal desires, why isn't there other deitys that match such power, someone who is as powerful as the evil that resides within humans, a creator, a true god?

All of that is explained in the setting. There are various planes like the physical plane and the astral plane, and magic is an actual tangible thing in Berserk. Maybe read the manga before you ask to be spoonfed.

>magical creatures that have nothing to do with humanity nor the IoE spawned from nowhere
Which magical creatures? The ones of the spirit world are either treated as existing in a time before Humanities collective will forced them into the shadows. And the minor or major dieties that exist like the spirits that Shierke taps into for her power. On top of that lesser spirits act as something like the "atoms" of the world being present in things like fire, the breeze, and water.

Magical creatures are just another type of ecosystem that exists within the setting. The God hand being agents of this collective will has yet to be fully explored but factors into the concepts of fate and destiny that have been a backbone to everything since chapter 1. How they get defeated has yet to be realized but I doubt Miura won't have some way he unveils to us.

nigga I already know that, no magic seems to be on pair with the godhand powerlevel, stupid speedreader

Because presumably negative emotions are ultimately more powerful according to Miura. We look for something or someone to blame when things go wrong. We're rarely grateful and paying tribute to something invisible in the sky when everything goes well and we're happy.

casualty

Oh wow you already know all of that, "nigga"? Then stop asking dumb questions. Try thinking for yourself why such elements are presented the way they are. Is there a brain in that thick skull of yours?

I think people probably shouldn't take the word of what is literally called "the idea of evil" as gospel, despite what it claims. It outright admits to constant manipulation.

Also Miura has moved that entire chapter in possibly retconned area after he asked for it to be pulled. Later stuff contradicts what the IoE says too.

there seems to be no answer to how can good win within Berserks universe or if there's another entities powerful enough to take on the IoE? I want to learn from other peoples opinion on these things you stupid ape, go back to whatever shithole you crawled out from

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Does humanity need to have been created by a higher mystical power? From what I understand, the mystical powers of Berserk exist because of the collective conscious. They exist in the forms they're in because that's how they're perceived. They are because we are.

Shin Megami Tensei IV FINAL (or Apocalypse) had some interesting thoughts on this. There are gods that want humans dead because they themselves are constrained by human perception. Dagda doesn't want to have a humanoid form with powers representing various things in nature, he wants to be the wind itself. But because these concepts are anthropomorphized, they become fixed forms, prisons.

If the Idea of Evil were to wipe out all of humanity, it would no longer have a fixed form. It would no longer exist. Morality, good and evil, is a human concept, unlike the wind. Surely it would cease to exist if humans did, while fairies and gnomes would go back to the concepts that inspired them.

To say that we exist because we are perceived by a higher entity only serves to make an infinite loop of beings created by perception, and is thus pointless from a storytelling perspective. We treat humans as the baseline from which all else arises.