Forward thinking masterpiece, or pretentious garbage?

Forward thinking masterpiece, or pretentious garbage?

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present day

That you're still making threads like this 20 years after it aired should answer your question.

Forward thinking garbage.

Yes

you are enslaved in your 5 sense

present time

pretty solid show id say, all the wired scenes are pretty shitty in retrospect tho ig, i don't mind it tho, i honestly havent seent he ending tho desu lol

>Forward thinking
By the time Lain came out, the concepts of parallel societies and the exploration of the internet had already been conducted by dozens of science fictions authors and western film directors. Lain wasn't forward thinking, it merely picked up an emerging media trend.

So the latter then?

I mean, it released around the same time as The Matrix.
It was just better, and Lain's body is far more magnificent than Keanu Reeves', who isn't all that bad, of course.

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Should tell you enough about how forward thinking it was. When a Hollywood film, that likely took 5 years to make, came out less than a year afterwards addressing similar themes. And Polacks coming up with Matrix' script were hardly the most inventive of god's creatures.

>It was just better
The Matrix is actually enjoyable though

if you watch it straight until the last episode, it painted a better picture of the 2010s and internet culture in general than any piece of mdia that came before it.

The only thing I remember about the series was that these was some crazy bitch with split personality disorder and something about hypnosis.

sure, but that wasn't all there is in lain
op is just baiting anyway

Kind of both? It depends on what you mean by forward thinking. It was certainly not the first to tackle the themes, although that doesn't mean anything, and I don't think it even did it the best or most accurately. But it was certainly saying "something".

I dunno, I remember being really mad at it the first time I watched it and thinking it was irredeemable, pretentious garbage, and although I still see all the problems I saw then (and there's certainly big ones), I've grown to respect it more and more for what it is. Maybe it's the constant degenerating and dissolution of current media into meaningless distractions manufactured to enslave us via appeal to base emotions and passive consumption that has made me appretiate it more, but I don't know.

So I guess I would say it's neither.

One year before The Matrix, Dark City came out.
Dark City was a Hollywood film where dudes walk around in black trenchcoats where the protagonist figures out all of reality is artificially created by aliens as part of some scientific experiment; he also realizes that due to a freak accident, within the artificial reality, he has the alien's powers of “tuning” which allows him to perform super-human gravity defying feats among other things.

The Matrix actually bought some sets from Dark City and re-used them.

Dark City is also a way better film than The Matrix in my opinion.

The Matrix is mostly just a combination of themes from Dark City and Lain, and æsthetic from Ghost in the Shell and Dark City.

But all that is irrelevant to one single thing: Lain has, aside from Crimvael, the finest body ever to grace the screen. Imagine making out with Lain, stroking his flat chest, and not even knowing whether it's a boy or a girl.

>Dark City is also a way better film than The Matrix in my opinion.

VERY debatable and dependent on your parameterization of "better", although I think I get where you're coming from.

There was also a heavy influence from Grant Morrison's The Invisibles series of comics, particularly the Gnostic shit.

I don't know if it's really forward-thinking, but it's the most 'modern' popular anime I've ever watched.

>The Matrix is mostly just a combination of themes from Dark City and Lain
>and Lain
Kek

>Forward thinking masterpiece, or pretentious garbage?
Both.
Same with Texhnolyze.

It's not debatable that it's a far better film in my opinion.
I am the ultimate authority on what is my opinion.

ha ha ha ha

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Technically true and difficult to argue with.

Art

haha phone line go buzz

Technobabble ghost story.

or really gay

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