>Madoka Rebellion was suppose to end after Homura's witch form is defeated and the incubators plan gets destroyed.
>Producers wanted to keep it going so we got this abomination of Homura being the devil and the madoka clone running around.
>Gacha game and Mahou shoujo came out anyway so it wasn't necessary to butcher the rebellion ending because they have their cash cows.
Being a magical girl is suffering, being a magica fan is hell.
Madoka Rebellion was suppose to end after Homura's witch form is defeated and the incubators plan gets destroyed
Rebellion ending was great though. Watching Homura finally break was the logical conclusion to everything that happened to her. And considering Madoka was a god because Homura's timlines focused on her, Homura should have some karmic powers too (and it was nice that they finally addressed this point here by making her the fallen angel capable of pulling Madoka from heaven, better late than never). The duality between both characters is interesting and made the whole story worth it for me
But don't you feel like the story lacks clousure? The two parts are very good on their own, but I think that they need a last part to give the whole thing a proper ending
I wouldn't mind another movie, but I don't think it lacks closure unless you believe stories should have a happy ending no matter what
Just like Avatar the Last Airbender, this is a series where everything after the original is better off ignored.
Really? Damn that sucks. I disliked rebellion but I would have loved it if it actually ended there. Kind of sad.
If you watch movies and shows closely you can tell when the writers lose steam or some outside force makes a big decision.
If it ended there it would be a worse film. Just fan service and then fighting Kyubey. The ending is kino and makes you reexamine what kind of happy ending you wanted in PMMM. Did Madoka unnecessarily sacrifice herself because of her low opinion of herself? Is it worth overriding the ending for one where she’s more happy, even if her memory is stripped away?
The ending of Rebellion was the whole point though. The entire purpose of the rest of the movie was to justify that ending.
>Rebellion ending was great though. Watching Homura finally break was the logical conclusion to everything that happened to her. And considering Madoka was a god because Homura's timlines focused on her, Homura should have some karmic powers too (and it was nice that they finally addressed this point here by making her the fallen angel capable of pulling Madoka from heaven, better late than never). The duality between both characters is interesting and made the whole story worth it for me
Pretty much this.
The entire conversation between Madoka and Homura in the flower field would have been pointless if the movie ended with Homura being saved by Madoka. So unless they also added that entire scene and conversation when they changed the ending I think you're full of shit. Madoka is an interesting case I think of people just wanting a happy ending even if it doesn't make much sense in context. They want the characters to be happy and are willing to accept any bullshit that allows that to happen.
It didnt justify anything, just get from start to end.
If madoka winning is an asspull, then homura winning after is goatse
>Homura winning
>>>>>>Homura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning
So this is your average Zig Forumsnon
No, rebellion just doesnt make sense.
Homura saved madoka and fulfilled her wish in the series.
She got her way and became all powerful, yes she won
No, she didn't
Neither are asspulls, but Madoka "winning" doesn't make sense in the context of the movie and you could probably argue it doesn't make sense in the context of the show either. Homura's whole identity is about wanting to save Madoka from her fate. The ending of the series seems like a good ending but it is still an ending where Madoka is suffering. And Homura getting Madoka to tell her she would never want that kind of thing to happen under any circumstances in Rebellion made her want to stop what was happening, which is why she did what she did.
See above. It was a better ending than Madoka becoming a witch, which is how it had always ended before that, but it was still not really an ending where Madoka was truly happy, as Homura got her to say in Rebellion. She sacrificed herself which is what Homura wanted to prevent, but in the moment at the end of the series Madoka convinced Homura it was a good thing, but it really isn't when you actually take the time to think about it.
>madoka suffers after becoming jesus
No, she doesnt. Thats all homuras projection
No one wins. Homura is completely mentally unstable by the end of the movie and has to keep living a lie to protect the fake world she created for Madoka. Madoka knows something is wrong yet Homura is too weak to let her go. The movie literally ends with Homura looking at a half moon with bags under her eyes and throwing herself off a cliff
Thats exactlt what happens when a crazy person wins
Why would you even call that a win though
Because she got what she wanted and beated everyone else, derp
Its like you didnt even watch them fight
You should stop spreading this misleading interpretation, the "original ending" was early on in the drafting process when Urobuchi couldn't come up with a satisfying ending and went to Shinbo for advice. It wasn't "evil jew execs force poor artistic Urobuchi to change his perfect ending to keep the franchise going". If that was the intention they would have actually continued from Rebellion.
She ‘won’ in that she succeeded in her gambit pulling Madoka down from heaven, but she ‘failed’ in that she didn’t get the result she truly wanted. Madoka’s alive and with her friends, but Homura can’t be happy because deep down she knows this isn’t right.
Lying to your partner is ok if you do it for their happiness.
My girlfriend bought a hat that is in fashion around here and is really happy with it, other people tell her she looks good with it, why i should tell her i think she looks like a bedside table lamp?
And yes Madoka and Homura might end up as enemies in the future, just like you and your ex.
>she got what she wanted
But she didn't. That's the point
Homura doesnt want to be happy, she just wants things hee way
>My girlfriend
Go back you retarded fucking faggot holy shit
No she did, she was totally satisfied with the outcome of rebellion
>she was totally satisfied with the outcome of rebellion
No. See
Is it truly okay to commit actions for sake of greater happiness? If you could sacrifice teenage girls to make the universe happier, would you?
Being crazy doesnt make her unhappy, its why shes satisfied with the outcome you idiot
No, you retard. She isn't happy. You can clearly tell she's miserable and broken. I told you exactly that in my post. Can't you read?
Homurafags don't even understand their girl's character. Homura is clearly incredibly fucked up by the end of Rebellion, to the point where she larps as the fucking devil. She self-destructed hard in the name of love.
So? Shes crazy and thus wants to be unhappy, and beat everyone else who tried to stop her.
How is that not a win?
Nah the last parts of Homura going devil mode was what made the movie worthwhile for me.