No offence / help me understand

Why do you like anime/manga? I've tried to enjoy them, but it all seems so blatantly retarded:
> clear cut and exaggerated distinction between good and evil characters and actions
> romance of main protagonist with a hard-to-get woman mandatory
> trannies and faggots mandatory
> filler content mandatory
> unexplained pretentiousness and comically edgy dialogue
> most objects and actions exaggerated. Swords are insanely big, tits are gigantic, emotional reactions are over-the-top

Why do you do this to yourselves? What do you gain out of this?

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Retard, go read a good manga

It sounds like you've only seen shounenshit.
Before new users invaded and killed Zig Forums Zig Forums would only indulge in the good stuff.

Recommend something half decent then

>Why do you like anime/manga?
Because I like them. It's not rocket science. I'm surprised you're even able to post here.

>Zig Forums would only indulge in the good stuff.
>fairy tail
>one piece
>naruto

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this sounds like you went straight to the teen fiction section of a library, skimmed some and then decided all fiction is shit. just go back to watching tv, there's no hope for you.

>filler content mandatory
>exaggerated distinction between good and evil characters and action
Go read/watch Hunter x Hunter

You would be laughed off Zig Forums if you posted that shit 15 years ago.

Then try some gekiga, a genre of japanese comic that try to tell mature and usually down to earth stories. You should start with Jiro Taniguchi, almost all of his works are good.
Also do some research on Garo Magazine, that at its time was a beacon for all those authors that wanted a different japanese comic

This answer is the hallmark of autism. I sometimes wonder if anime are so popular with autists because all social cues and emotional responses are exaggerated, making them easy to grasp even for those with special needs.

Recommend me something with depth and nuance and I'll take your point.

The one with the prepubescent boy with the Yu-Gi-Oh thunder hair but in green? I'm not one to judge a book by its cover, but it doesn't leave a great first impression. I'll check it out nevertheless :)

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You can say the same shit about most forms of media. I've been watching anime and reading manga for a long time so maybe I'm just used to its bullshit. But like others are saying a lot of your complaints would be minimized by reading something different rather than whatever the complaints come from. People with very little knowledge of anime almost always lump everything into the same category because they've only been exposed to a small subsection of it.

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If you have no actual interest to begin with and look stuff up yourself then I don't have to list you any reason or recommend you shit.

this is probably bait but i'm going to bite anyway, every single one of your can be just answered with watching more anime also
> most objects and actions exaggerated. Swords are insanely big, tits are gigantic, emotional reactions are over-the-top
> clear cut and exaggerated distinction between good and evil characters and actions
This sounds like you only watch Naruto and think you know everything but why is this bad for you?

Like the other user said, Hunter x Hunter is what you're looking for.

I like certain genres a lot. Particularly ones that allow for heavy world building. Western media doesn't do a lot with those genres and I ran out of quality material a while ago. I only started watching anime to continue my ravenous consumption and fuel my never ending escapism

No offence but you sound like you've been bullied in school

No, I've tried more, and that's why I'm posting here. I've tried watching Akira and reading Berserk but they suffer from the same problems that I brought up. Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo were very good, but they're quite Western. Playing Persona 5, which runs along similar lines almost made me throw up. This isn't bait.

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Usagi Drop.

Try watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

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ITT: Faggots complaining about shit they're not interested in.

Can you explain your issues with Akira and Berserk and also how Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo somehow don't contain these issues?

>I've tried watching Akira and reading Berserk but they suffer from the same problems that I brought up. Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo were very good, but they're quite Western.

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Thanks lads

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Recommendation threads are a bannable offense, lurk moar newfag.

>rec thread
Sweet go read Spirit Circle

Lurk more

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Asper Kanojo

Then try reading authors like Jiro Taniguchi, Yoshihiro Tsuge, Yoshihiro Tataumi and others.
Read a Drifting Life by Tatsumi, if you're curious about the history of the mature Japanese comic, and you would learn a lot of interesting authors names that you could check out

Watch Trigun and Gungrave.

Yoshihiro Tatsumi*

Why do you think you deserve to be spoonfed?

>blatantly untrue, who is good and who is evil in Ichi for example (children aside)?
>Hmmm, I wonder what romance The Wolf Won’t Sleep featured
>Fuck this user, comin’ straight from the Zig Forums-cesspit // a new user got it bad ’cause he’s white // and not the other colors so jannies think // they have the authority to ban a majority
>filler ... in manga ... imagine being this retarded
>just because you’re too dumb to grok it the dialogue needn’t be unexplained, pretentious nor edgy
>What is Slice-of-Life? What is Psychological Thriller? What is Historical Drama?

user, I hope for your sake and mine that you are just baiting but your post just as asinine as disregading books in general because you read 50 Shades of Grey and found it wanting.

Akira and Berserk immediately shove down your throat who the bad guys are, who the good guys are, and (I'm pretty sure) unnecessary love interests. You are told what to think and the story is so incredibly linear and predictable it feels like it was designed for children with mental disabilities.

Bebop and Champloo, while still suffering from other problems I mentioned (trannies, filler) at least have the decency to present imperfect protagonists, with serious issues that are worked out through the plot. They are not overly pretentious because they don't need to be, actions speak for themselves.

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>Samurai
>Western
this is officially a bait thread. don't forget your herbal remedies.

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>people unironically answering recommendation requests
Has summer started already?

Your post is stupid. You make a bunch of stupid claim about anime, tell us we're basically stupid for watching it, and then you expect us to help you find good anime? We don't care about your opinion. We would eventually care about a discussion, but you're too ignorant to have one, and get defensive as soon as you get challenged.

>all of those complaints
>while using an image of berserk
Lol
> trannies and faggots mandatory
Oh youre a schizo

OP said he doesn't like exagerations

>Akira and Berserk immediately shove down your throat who the bad guys are, who the good guys are, and (I'm pretty sure) unnecessary love interests.

I've always thought Cowboy Bebop fans were some of the worst posters on Zig Forums but this is on another level.

Troll or not I'm morally obbligated to help the poor unfortunate souls that don't know the gekiga movement

There is nothing wrong with not likening anime or manga. I do like discussing manga but I would never shove it down someone's throat who doesn't like it.

Also Ashita no Jo is pretty good.

Fuck you and fuck the jannies too
Cheers lads, thanks

Not my fault the thread got derailed

I was not trying to insult your past-time. I was just trying to understand it. You do sound so unlovable though that I maybe should have insulted you from the get go.

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>gekiga
Pfffwahahaha youtu.be/-rUTAHCqNRQ

Just report the thread dude

The thread didn't got derailed, this is a request thread.

I'm just too altruistic, sorry.

Not same user, but Jojo doesn't take itself seriously in a stupidly fun way. It's exaggerated, but not in a way that deters from the experience.

Get the fuck out of here

stop lying

all your green text reasoning shows you are a nothing more than a retard.
kill yourself.

>social cues and emotional responses are exaggerated
that's just japanese media in general

I wonder why you're all so angry. If I was spewing complete falsehoods you would have shrugged it off, but at some level you must understand I am right. That's why the autist-rage. Fuck all of you.

Maybe I could like it if I knew what is actually of value. But 40 replies in, no one has disproved a single point.

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Why the fuck are you people trying to give this guy recommendations in good faith? OP is a massive faggot and is just wasting your time.

There's nothing to discuss, we are just here to insult you personally until eventually OP gets banned.

I don't quite understand your respond

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>203644643
This poor sap got baited into watching more garbage.

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Am I? Why do you like anime you stupid faggot? Can you disprove any of my points? I just think you enjoy filler, trannies, elementary school-tier social interactions and complete lack of depth and nuance.

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>Berserk immediately shove down your throat who the bad guys are,who the good guys are, and (I'm pretty sure) unnecessary love interests.
I refuse to believe you actually read Berserk.

user, you seem to think yourself more important than you are. I would not have cared even if you had “insult[ed] my past-time (sic)” because not only are you a mouthbreather as evidenced by your denigration of an entire medium (which, as said previously, is as retarded as writing off novels or film based on your shallow understanding of them) but your criticisms are also so blatantly based off of only the most cursory contact with manga that it is almost comical.
Things might have been different had you instead brought up actual flaws present in the medium as a whole (e.g. its tendency to value cliffhanger-esque story telling over proper plot structure due to the serialized nature of the medium) - although I doubt I would have cared to any significant extent even then - but as things stand you have done nothing but out yourself as an ignoramus of the highest calibre. You are in luck insofar as I find perverse pleasure in lecturing the noetically challenged which gives you the opportunity to now reflect upon your own idiocy and take appropriate countermeasures to remedy that situation.

>Not my fault the thread got derailed
Your fault for asking to be spoonfed. Just go home to where you belong, crossboarder.

This same type of thread has been made millions of times by people who watched like 5 really popular anime and didn't like them, or liked stuff like Cowboy Bebop. I personally just think it's fun to have you try and explain yourself and fall on your face and I really don't give a shit about trying to disprove your retarded claims.

Avatar posting is also a bannable offense, in case you want to stop signing your posts with Cowboy Bebop pictures. Seriously everything about your posts is wrong, you should unironically take some time to lurk more before posting.

>muh depth and nuance
Go back to where you belong and watch your netflix shit

No one cares about your points because they are stupid. You might as well complain that people talk funny in Shakespeare's plays. You are complaining about manga & anime qua magna & anime on a manga & anime board. You are a turbo charged faggot.