>character says the last name
>subs say the first name
Character says the last name
Wyatt Wilson
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Carter Adams
>character doesn't say a name at all and there's not even a subject in the sentence
>the subs have a character's name
William Ortiz
Here are the last 3 times we have had this exact same conversation. Try to come up with new responses to this very important topic.
Asher Barnes
>character shouts at MC for being a pervert
>subs have some cringy political agenda
Brody Turner
i seriously want to know why i see this shit all the time in subs because it makes no sense and there's no good reason to do it
Noah Johnson
youtube.com
this theme is too good for the shitty series its attached too god damnit.
Jason Ramirez
>user doesn't know japanese or english
>comments on a translation from japanese to english
Jack Hughes
>character says something like ‘onii-chan’ or ‘onee-san’ or a formal title like ‘kaichou’
>subs says the character’s name instead
Dylan Morales
Some subbers (and scanlators) think people are still afraid of non-western customs like name order and so they take it upon themselves to localize them.
You don't have to know Japanese to know if a name is used in a sentence or not. If you've been watching anime enough too you're bound to have at least a little knowledge of Japanese and be able to pick up on things here and there. Though I know that some people somehow just tune out the language entirely and so the subs doing this doesn't affect them.
Jayden Cruz
>character says 'senpai'
>subs say the character's name
This one gets me the most heated.
Asher Gray
this bothers me too
also when they dont show honorifics
David Cruz
>character says user-san
>subs say mr. user
Matthew Wood
>be a translator
>don't translate honorifics
Gavin Rodriguez
This one isn't that bad because it's a pretty accurate translation for someone being formal and using 'san' instead of 'kun' or 'chan'.
Kayden Morgan
>character clearly says character name
>subs show no name in the text
John Perez
San can sometimes be translated as Mr/Ms but there's still a lot of instances it can't and the other honorifics are even less translatable.
Zachary Thompson
>Some subbers (and scanlators) think people are still afraid of non-western customs like name order and so they take it upon themselves to localize them.
In fairness, a fair number of people are still confused by such things. And some subbers (and scanlators) do leave things that really have no good reason to be left.
Jason Jenkins
>character says a meme
>subs show a Zig Forums/reddit meme instead
DESU, sometimes it can't be helped if it's part of a joke.
Landon Perez
fuck commie
Ayden Green
>Zig Forums discussing translation style
Luke Reed
But it doesn't exactly equal formal, just polite.
Xavier Jenkins
Let's be honest here,
>Zig Forums discussing anything at all
a lot of people are going to think and say some really stupid shit.
Isaiah Perry
this is the worst
Jack Martin
fucking crunchyroll and professional subbers
Lucas Torres
Fwiw, there are valid reasons for this that aren't just localization hubris.
The japanese use names to mark people as the subject of a sentence even after they're already established as the subject, where we'd just use a pronoun. It's fine to drop it here.
It's fucking jarring when the only word in the sentence is a character's name and the subs say something else, though.
Jaxon Phillips
Nah, schoolkids calling each other Mr. and Ms. is fucking stupid.
Christian Ross
Subbers are afraid people will think the story is not taking place in 'Murica
Jordan Howard
Different country, different culture. What may be considered weird in one place, is normal in another.
Thomas Stewart
You sound like you've only been to public school.
Hudson Miller
Or it's just not a good translation.
Luis Long
>a lot of people are going to think and say some really stupid shit.
I'll start off then.
Translation style (i.e. literal vs liberal) should depend on two factors:
1. How culturally-specific the setting is. This includes not only the world in which the story takes place, but also the mannerisms of the characters.
2. The intended target audience. Which is, in practice, determined by the language you're translating to. For English this is essentially meaningless since English speakers are so diverse, but for smaller languages certain liberalizations may be justifiable on a case-by-case basis.
William Sanchez
>character references self in third person or says someone elses name
>sub completely cuts it out or just uses a pronoun instead
Grayson Mitchell
If the original work has honorifics in it, I'm going to put in fucking honorifics regardless of whether it's supposedly based in America or Japan.
Also, I hate the term "literal" translation, an actual literal translation would be completely retarded.
Wyatt Allen
>character is heterosexual
>fans use retconned material to claim she's a filthy bislut