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if it works it eventually gets a giant market cap with whales loving it because they get exchange fees and geyser yield resulting in a very stable and liquid coin

if it doesnt work it should still have regular fun wild swings giant expansions and contractions and extremely confusing price charts

Marketcap will grow. This is a decentralized store of value that does not get affected by traditional markets. It's designed to be added into every single investment portfolio as a hedge agaisnt anything and everything. This is a valuable "thing" to have for ..everyone. The demand is there, people are slowly waking up to the fact that something like this exists.

Let's look at an example of why it can go up for a VERY long time before stabilizing. With the above as a reference.

Bob purchased a huge amount of AMPL 6 months ago and is considered a whale. Bob is sitting on 10 million up from his initial investment of 1,000. Bob reached 10 mil through compounded gains and daily rebases. Bob dumps his stack and retires, crashing the price down to similar prices we're seeing now.

Alice (aka you) has been patiently watching AMPL and resisting the urge to fomo for months, waiting for a correction. Alice buys the dip, and the market reacts buy collectively buying the dip, eventually fomoing in and increasing the price again. Cyclical and reliable.

George who sits on the sidelines with a small stack and just collects rebases for the next 3 years while the marketcap discovers its reistance and support is also rich btw.

It's literally just like bitcoin, it relies on human greed to insure decentralization and constant "up time" via miners. If there's money to be made, people will flock to it in droves.

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This coin is like theoretical physics or something. I can't see how supply can expand so much and price still be over $1 but I can't really see us staying under a dollar for long with so much buy pressure and deflation. The most likely scenario is what OP said. We stay between $1-2+ for a long time with wild swings. Meanwhile we get juicy rebases. I could be totally wrong though.

niggers, pajeets and europoor dorm-housed teenagers who thought they were smarter than me ETERNALLY BTFO, I am literally pissing in their mouths right now after they had their "omg it's literally dumping oh no no no" minute yesterday

YOU CAN'T STOP THE AMPL TRAIN, IT IS THE CHOSEN CRYPTO AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT HAHAHHA

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Because people will slowly realize they have been missing out and will continue to FOMO in. You have BTC ETH LINK and now AMPL.

You sound like someone saying you can’t see how bitcoin will break 700 when it doubled top there once upon a time.

WORD!

$1-$2 is the like zone but as i've said we'll have monthly FOMO cycles that can break $5 easily. Everyone want's to be in the "zone" of $1-$2 and there's only so many sellers at that price. We're going to have to see.

The best part is you can't lose money on AMPL. Not if you hold it.

AMPL is a whole different beast. Bitcoin is more similar to traditional currencies.

OP I was kind of poorfagging in the beginning, I didn't buy my whole stack at once, I only have 1.2k ampls but could maybe go up to 3k right now.. should I just leave the 1k rebasing for a while and wait for the next contraction or do I really want to drive my average buy price up like that by throwing a couple thousand $ at it right now... Hard to decide

I love your videos

>The best part is you can't lose money on AMPL. Not if you hold it.
oh cmon man
theres certainly the possibility that it has a crazy run and all the normies get burned hard enough to say fuck this coin forever

Agrees. My point was more about the arrogance of the poster I replied to and how wrong they are. Not to compare AMPL to BTC

I've lost money bc I bought a few days ago near ATH like an idiot. Now that I understand this coin I am never selling. A few more rebases and I will be in the positive again.

>If you think you can immediately pinpoint all the flaws in this new economic model without reading the redpaper you are jaded from being scammed and have your head too far up your ass.
It's pretty simple desu. The entire economic model depends on people treating the price after a rebase the same as the price before the rebase. From the whitepaper (section 3.1):
>At t1 there’s a limited opportunity for Bob to sell more units than he could have at t0 for the same price, before other fast actors restore the price to its equilibrium value.
and from section 4:
>To understand the potential behavior of Amples, we start by examining the proxies for gain and loss presented by the Ampleforth protocol that do not exist in other synthetic commodities. How actors respond to these will determine the movement pattern of Amples’ price and supply.
The opportunity for Bob at t1 to sell his more units at the same price depends on another actor on the other side of that trade, that will buy some % of market cap for a higher price than the last traded price at t0. It depends on some people not even knowing how the rebase works, and buying at the pre-dilution price without noticing there has been a dilution. I don't think there will be many such actors in the market for ampls, since it's a losing trade compared to just buying before t1 and being on the receiving end of the dilution yourself. The more natural thing to do is to adjusting your buy or sell price to the exact amount of dilution, the moment dilution happens, and indeed this is exactly what happens automatically with the uniswap exchange rate. In a decently informed market everyone will just trade price*supply, and the special movement pattern disappears.
This market dynamic is what all their claims of unique volatility pattern, no correlation to other assets, etc.. rest on, and I've explained why I don't think it will work. Can anyone address this without muddying the waters?

To be clear, I don't think this is a scam project, it seems like a nice experiment that is, however, flawed.
This sentence from the whitepaper conclusion makes it clear that possibly, the authors themselves have not really thought of this flaw:
>By our analysis above, we conclude that the market dynamics of Amples cannot be determined by price alone, and require the consideration of supply in addition to price. As a result, the volatility fingerprint of Amples will be distinct from current-generation synthetic commodities.
First they say, rightly, that the market dynamics will be determined by price and supply both. But the conclusion, that the volatility fingerprint will be different, is valid only when the price and supply are *not* taken into account by at least some market participants. This is a contradiction.

High IQ DETECTED

The secret of ampl is lopsided mathematics. There is unlimited max positive rebase (anything >$1.05) but limited max negative rebase (anything below $0.96) of -10% at $0 price. As long as there is demand, negative rebase will still bring price up back to $1 and start FOMO cycles again. This uneven math effectively makes for trapping more base mcap after each FOMO cycle and raising the collective value of each holder's stack.
The only way value can leave is if there were prolonged 0 demand, which at this point is not realistic.

However, don't let anyone shill you with "muh compounded gains" or any such nonsense. Rebase simply changes supply evenly so everyone still holds the same % of the token supply each night. Money comes in whenever whales or FOMO fags pump the price and requires continuous new demand for mcap (and hence the value of your stack) to continue to accumulate at a meaning rate.

Advanced level: Learn to play the swings and you can multiply your %stack every FOMO cycle. Sell the top, but the bottom.

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>Buy the next bitcoin

Link IS the next bitcoin!!!

if the market actors are very informed (which they will never be as much as you think) then the post rebase dumps will be only like 5% and the rebase amount will be like 5.5% right?

Because the huge dumps of the last couple of days are precisely caused by whales dumping on uninformed market participants. If everyone knows the game then the dumps will be in line with the rebase amounts and therefore negating each other.
Then 10% uninformed or late to the party investors are totally enough to keep the rebase party going, right?

biz as usual (like they already did, check pink fields in the last couple days) will buy at 4$ again and panic sell at 1.50$ kek

What's theabsolute best option for a relative brainlet (me) right now who wants to throw a few Eth into the ecosystem, and isn't clever enough to swing trade this shit?

1 - Buy AMPL and hold in Metamask for a year or more
2 - Buy half AMPL, half UNI-V2 and hold both for a year or more.
3 - Buy all UNI-V2 and put it in Geyser
4. Other.

?

Thank you!

maybe you can help me out with this decision

The market (on uniswap) automatically adjusts the price down by the rebase inflation, hence the rebase "dump". Some people sell off their rebase amounts as "free money" as one strategy to profit from ampl. This does trigger both human and bot selling. I also imagine larger players intentionally suppress price for this effect to buy back at a better dip.

There are more than a few profitable strategies with ampl depending on the trader's preferred style, goals, and mindset. Not all of these strategies necessarily positively reinforce the others.

Market participant ignorance certainly hasn't killed stocks, commodities, or forex though, so I wouldn't worry about ampl.

For dummy newfags, learn to trade and read price action. Barring that, hodling ampl is probably safe in your metamask. Iron hands.
You're already in the market contraction. Whether it dips to $1 or bounces or crabs remains to be seen. I personally won't buy in until it breaks out into the $2s or down towards $1.