i’ve seen people say this was mediocre, but after actually watching it, holy shit it was straight up terrible. makoto makes absolutely stunning visuals in his films but that’s probably the only good thing about them. it’s always the same corny boy meets girl plot and aside from Your Name, the storylines are mediocre and aren’t very impactful.
but weathering with you is probably as bad as garden of words, if not worse. basically, some fuckhead of a protagonist ruins the entire city of tokyo by flooding it and fucking up the lives of millions of people all because he wanted to see some girl again. the plotline, character motives and roles, everything was pretty weak and you end up not really liking any character because they’re all written poorly. this movie was lame as fuck like most makoto films and the only thing it had going for it was the visuals.
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Makoto is a hack. He uses his cinematic visuals as a crutch for his shitty writing. If he has good visuals, he can trick audiences into thinking that the story is good just because it looks good.
the best part about the movie are the your name cameos, which says a lot
agreed 100%, if anything he should probably make short films instead and not full movies. his writing isn’t good enough to cover an entire movie and with short films he could make as many corny love stories as he wants while filling them with stunning scenery
The last act is where everything fell apart. It didn't have the strong punch and drive of Your Name. Your Name drove everything home in the last act, which is why I think it was so popular. You get that bittersweet last act, and it gives a very subtle suspense until the resolution at the last second.
I enjoyed it, but I don't know the big picture of the ending. A return of nature over human encroachment? Well, that may be metaphorically sound, with the myth of the girls controlling the weather representing human control over nature, but the actual characters and plot don't have much to do with nature at all.
There's a gap in theme. Maybe it's a story that'd work better a book, rather than a movie.
I always saw the posters on these and assumed they're anime for people who don't like anime, the covers all look the same too.
Why would you watch this shit?
What makes you think the posters were for people who didn’t like anime? It’s still anime
I couldn't help but keep drawing parallels between this and Kimi no Na wa. as I was watching, and it only made my impression of this being "Kimi no Na wa, but worse" even more solid
I enjoyed it, it was a fun watch.
Fuck society and fuck people when you have your cis straight partner with you who's ready to btfo the world.
>basically, some fuckhead of a protagonist ruins the entire city of tokyo by flooding it and fucking up the lives of millions of people all because he wanted to see some girl again.
Great for him, not so great for the drowned.
right. it makes it hard for viewers to like the protagonist when he’s just a selfish dumb retard, he’s probably a self insert by makoto like in all his other movies
Let's be honest: if you will need to kill your family member to save million people, will you do that?
You’re implying that we would have close relationships with our family. If I lose them then it’s whatever since I don’t interact with them
>Implying you wouldn't flood a city for your waifu
Then yes, smaller number of whatevers exchanged for a larger number of whatevers. But what if you have loving sister/brother/parent?
>when he’s just a selfish dumb retard
but that's the best part
he's not trying to be a hero at all
I’ve got no siblings and estranged to my parents, I think it’s pointless for me to think about hypothetical situations. But you will lose everyone you love eventually in your life since everyone dies. I guess it would be better to have them die for millions of other people so they’re going out for a noble cause.
However, in this movie’s case, the girl didn’t even die a painful death. She simply disappeared and got transported on top of a gigantic cloud where she slept on. It honestly doesn’t sound that bad
Why doesn't he hire a writer?
>She simply disappeared and got transported on top of a gigantic cloud where she slept on. It honestly doesn’t sound that bad
she's getting converted to water up there
not saying that you have to be a hero to be a good guy, it just makes it difficult to sympathize with the motive he had which you could expect from a dumb 16 year old boy (i think that was his age in the movie, i forgot)
>But you will lose everyone you love eventually in your life since everyone dies
That applies to the millions too.
>the drowned.
Nobody died retard.
The city adapted to the flooding, as shown when he came back. People were inconvenienced, probably displaced, but nobody died because of their choice.
The whole point is that she shouldn't sacrifice her LIFE just for other people's comfort and happiness. Even just one human life isn't worth that.
People generally don't become more selfless when they age. Quite opposite, you can easily convince youth to sacrifice something for a noble cause, but it's harder to do with adults.
Honestly rather than the nature/climate parts, what annoyed more than anything was that stupid gun. It was forced drama given an actual physical manifestation. All of the scenes with the police were stupid, he literally runs out of the station and they somehow can't stop him.
It wasn’t stated if people died from the flood because the movie can’t possibly cover every single thing that happened throughout those three years it kept raining because who knows, maybe some homeless people died from drowning or a flu they got from the cold. Tokyo is a massive city
>The whole point is that she shouldn't sacrifice her LIFE just for other people's comfort and happiness. Even just one human life isn't worth that.
Wrong.
>All of the scenes with the police were stupid
police being stupid is not really exclusive to Japan
sometimes you can't prevent a kid from escaping the precinct
sometimes you shoot someone to death a suspect who's already been arrested way earlier in the day
well, it's not our call to make. it's theirs.
we'll just have to carry on.
there were a lot of things in the movie that were unnecessary honestly
Shinkai literally spelled out that was the message in interviews, dumbfuck. Or at least, he asks the question and his characters make a choice. He doesn't seem to have a position either way.
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>Perhaps the question Shinkai is most interested in exploring in “Weathering With You” is whether the needs of society should always be put ahead of the needs of the individual.
>“To say the person right in front of me is more important than society … (is something) politicians and those in power definitely aren’t allowed to say, right?” he says. “You can’t write it in newspapers or textbooks either.”
What's not easy to get in this movie, really?
It's as linear as it can get.
Are the intended viewers that easily distracted by all the extra shit he threw in the movie?
If you will not sacrifice trillions for your waifu, you don't deserve her (and vice-versa).
>“To say the person right in front of me is more important than society … (is something) politicians and those in power definitely aren’t allowed to say, right?” he says.
Seems like it’s basically about selfishness. The needs of one person vs the needs of many people (society)
Why would you translate it as ridiculous "weathering with you" instead of something like "weather daughter" ?