Why did Dragon Ball suddenly start taking itself more seriously when the goofiness and bold gags were the main reason of its (early) charm?
Why did Dragon Ball suddenly start taking itself more seriously when the goofiness and bold gags were the main reason...
Ethan Morales
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William Taylor
Define "seriously"
Really it was only the Cell and Piccolo arc that were really serious. Freiza arc had a great blend of action and comedy while Buu arc had a not-so-great blend.
Logan Thomas
Because Torishima is a cynical capitalist and Toriyama an obedient slave.
Ayden Allen
Because it was axebait then.
Alexander Thomas
>suddenly start taking itself more seriously
Vegetto fought Buu while turned into a tiny piece of chocolate
Aiden Bennett
>Toriyama even started the trend of turning a light gag manga into a serious fighting manga
Dylan Gomez
It's a good thing Toriyama realized the error of his ways and forced the movie gues to make battle of gods full of gags and the villain be a goofy cat instead of edgy grimdark
Elijah Lopez
Really it was the push to rekindle the goofiness that handicapped the Buu arc, Super, and GT. Not saying they should've been super serious but I felt that they fucked up the narrative cohesion too many times just so one of the characters can tell a gag or have a gag character with no consequence
though the serious villains were so serious they had no personality
Lucas Foster
Because thats not really true, Dragonball wasnt all that popular until the tournament saga started and only got more popular the more it distanced itself from the goofiness and gags of the first arc.
Jackson Watson
No one cares about the panty jokes or whatever, they love the training with Master Roshi, the Tenkaichi Budokais and Demon King Piccolo, all shit that was as "serious" as """"Z""""
Hudson Nelson
Fucking retard, Toriyama's previous series was one of the absolute top dogs of the magazine and dragon ball was a hit from day 1.
Nicholas Powell
I thought it was kind of doing only okay in the ratings so Toriyama decided to do a tournament arc since the tournament arc in Dr. Slump had brought a noticeable bump up in ratings so why not see if it would happen again?
Ryan Hill
dragon ball was originally a failure, it was going to be axed until the tournament arcs brought it back into popularity.
John Evans
No it wasn't, Torishima said himself it was looking like it would be axed. Toriyama said t
Asher Collins
Cell saga wasn't all that serious.
You had him sucking up niggas like a B horror movie. Shit was campy as fuck.
Nathaniel Wood
He never ever said DB was anywhere near close to getting axed.
It just wasn't the top dog in the first arc and wasn't all that popular.
Gavin Morgan
Dragon Ball never distanced itself from the goofiness or the gags. Never.
Colton Martin
Source?
Logan Campbell
Landon Mitchell
You also had the main villains basically just on a road trip for a while
Joshua Taylor
>emperor pilaf saga is anything like Cell Saga
oooooooooookay
Easton Fisher
It's still serious in that he's brutally killing people and it's not played for comedy.
Nolan Anderson
actually, yes it did. Toriyama admits that it got more serious as it went along. Obviously it retained some of his style. He also said the Buu arc got sillier because he was ending it and decided to just do what he liked. Toriyama always liked gags and never liked serious stuff or fighting.
Luke Watson
And the fun timey wimey ness of Toriyama's former editor being thoroughly unimpressed with the villains and so he's all "okay, the bad guy isn't 19 and 20, it's 17 and 18! Still not impressed? It's Cell! What do you mean he looks silly? What if he transformed by absorbing the other guys?"
Dominic Hernandez
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Bentley Scott
Kinnikuman did it first.
Jace King
Well he did like fighting. He was watching several martial arts movies a day when he did Dr. Slump.
Jace Allen
Actually there were quite a few gag manga that became serious after Fist of the North Star became a breakout hit for JUMP.
Adrian Brooks
watching is not the same as drawing. This is what he said exactly
>For me personally, the work “Dragon Ball” is nothing but fighting, which to be perfectly frank, isn’t something I like all that much (laughs),
Benjamin Price
because americans got dbz first so they assumed it was like that all they way.
Luke Allen
Yeah, he only made dragonball because he accidentally let his editor know he liked martial arts who then was all "well if you like martial arts so much why don't you make a martial arts manga do it do it do it"
Ian Martin
Kinnikuman started in 1979 and started becoming more serious with the first Chojin Olympics arc which was in 1980. Fist of the North Star didn’t start until 83.