You're learning japanese right user?

You're learning japanese right user?
How are you progressing.

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nah too hard. My friend passed the N1 exam and then tried to read the original Fate/Stay Night VN. And then failed after a few paragraphs. It was at that point that I realized, its all just muda muda.

I'll just stick to being a weeb

My brother passed N3 and he can read manga and LN just fine, and a friend of mine that passed N2 and is working as a translator. However, it's true that what they teach you academically it's almost useless.

I don't believe your anecdotal tale.

始めますでも毎日練習しません
Even an expert would have trouble reading Nasu's prose. Tell him to try a simpler VN

Wish DJT was still part of Zig Forums.

Shit. I've read and reread 3 teach yourself books I've had since 2006 but took a long break from it from 2014 up until last year. I've started again but all I really memorized is the basic stuff like saying 'I eat this' or 'I go here'. I try to listen to moon in anime but the best I can do is identify the odd word or two

Trying to learn this hell of a language is making me conscious of how literally retarded I'm. I don't feel like there's any progress, but just pain, penitence, punishment. I just hope there's peace at the end and I can rest someday.

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I don’t believe someone passed the highest level of JLPT and can read two paragraphs in a manga, of course it’s probably just that you mean the N5 and you don’t know what your talking about

>where would you cum on Kukuru

>memorize
Nigga memorize kanji. Grammar is all about patterns

No, its the N1. Even I passed the N5, and I'm a dumbass who only took some basic college courses. Also its not the manga. Its the VN on the Vita.

yes, simpler VNs are easier. I just thought it was funny. Seems like you need a Ph.D just to understand Nasu's retarded ass writing.

it's not a manga

I studied it in high school and my early years of undergrad, but I'd forgotten basically everything. I restarted literally last month and I'm cruising along so far just refreshing my memory. I'm picking it up a lot faster than I did the first time around, and I figure in a couple months or so I'll be ready to try to learn new shit. I figure that'll be a disaster.

My computer makes a clicking noise.

It is not an unpleasant clicking noise, but rather fades into the background.

My eyes scan over the question. It takes me about 30 seconds to read it. It is not an overly complicated question, but will require some "thoughtfulness" -- that is, I have to put my thoughts into it.

It takes me about 1 minute to come up with the response. That is, sixty seconds have passed between the time it takes me to start and finish my thoughts on the response.

Analyzing question.

Sending electrical impulses through my nerves to make my fingers move.

My fingers squirm like worms over the keyboard. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap. Tap.

They are not unpleasant "taps", but rather "taps as a whole".

It takes me another 35 seconds to write this.

I do not mind Nasu's writing style. It is specific, but not overly specific. That is, it is not "specific to a point", but rather "fluid and descriptive". He "captures the essence" of dramatic moments, such as battles and other events where "strong emotions" are featured.

A thought. It is a quick one.

Nasu does "go overboard" with his "writing style", and the "translators" don't exactly help with this, given that they are translating the work "word for word". It does get "toned down" in Hollow Ataraxia, however, and for "those who dislike Nasu's writing style", it is "not as specific and wordy".

With that finished, I ----------
>Read the other comments
>Go shitpost on another board
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i forgot basically everything except for hiragana/katakana and around 50-100 kanji. dekinai

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>[x] Rape the jannies.

I can't even read hiragana/katana properly after 10 years.

>I don’t believe someone passed the highest level of JLPT and can read two paragraphs in a manga
You're retarded.

Holy shit, you're all retarded. Japanese is not that difficult if you read it every day. The grammar is straightforward and once you understand that then it's literally just practicing reading all the time to naturally accumulate vocabulary. The guys just smashing their head into the wall by cramming flashcards have no practical experience. These claims about the JLPT seem dubious as well. The JLPT requires the ability to listen/read, comprehend and respond to spoken/written Japanese. Even someone at an N5 level should be able to read simple dialogue in a manga. Their main barrier would be a limited vocabulary and simplistic understanding of grammar.

I tried one, failed after 1 month.
I tried twice, learned a few kanji, failed after lack of discipline.
I tried thrice, and then realized that after the point where I was supposed to be able to read simple japanese easily, I still spent minutes to read short sentences. Then I decided to completely give up.

残念だけど大学のせいで時間が少なくて今は画力を上げることに集中してるんだ

Look how sexy 魑魅魍魎 is

Slowly. Maybe I'll try N1 this year, I tried a mock N1 test online and it seemed doable.

if you think you have no time in university wait until you get a fucking job and your free time becomes way more limited. dekinai

>I was supposed to be able to read simple japanese easily
Who told you that? It comes with practice user, you can't just study japanese for a set amount of time and then go read a manga and be fluent.

Tell your friend to crack an actual book for once in his life. It's not hard once you get used to it.

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It's going alright. Reading 東京大学物語 right now and enjoying quite a bit despite all the characters being assholes to haruka.

Sounds like you need to focus less on memorizing kanji and learn Japanese grammar, user. You know, shit like the functions and syntax of を, で, に, は, が, や, と, and other words like that. Nouns and verbs are the muscle, but prepositions and conjunctions are the bones holding everything together. Honestly, the suggestion to memorize kanji is such goddamn bullshit when you consider many words in Japanese are constructed from multiple kanji.

I can recognize characters but I can’t write them. I completely neglected the actual visualization of these characters on anything beyond a glance. I did try to learn handwritten kana but it was never a priority since I would never actually be writing them down and now I really can’t.

What's the point of writing anyway? Besides helping you to memorize them better, I don't see the point.

>oh no I work 8-12 hours a day 5-6 days a week, I can't get anything done
There's 24 hours in a day, you can sacrifice 30 minutes to an hour fucking somewhere in that timeframe. Doesn't even have to be all at once either.

Learning how to write it commits it to memory better. I definitely recognize more kanji than I can faithfully reproduce by hand, but the ones I can write are the ones I never mistake.

>What's the point of writing anyway?
Knowing how to properly write various kanji helps in looking them up in a dictionary when you don't know the definition of a word as kanji identification software somewhat relies on stroke order.

Yes, I know at least 70 % of these.

you can do anki on your phone during down time at work even

Saying 'I don't have time' is massive cope

Still, it's an enormous effort for such a little reward.

fuck kanji
I'm going listening comprehension only

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why would you only learn half a language

You have no idea what you're talking about. Like said, it's the best way to look up kanji, which you will do constantly if you actually plan on being able to read japanese.

>で
I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around it, and the same goes with -te form. This fucking slut of a kana's god damn fucking loose. If I read it I'll get it, but watching this jank ass looking character get used in a gorillion ways doesn't help me decide when to use it over anything else.

>kanji identification software somewhat relies on stroke order
I don't use kanji identification software. What's wrong with the traditional dictionary method of radical + stroke count?
There are only a small number of stroke patterns, so even the stroke count of an unfamiliar kanji can be guessed to within +/- 2 strokes at most.

You can't pick and choose which parts of the language to learn. It all goes hand in hand. You will fail.

I tried writing for two years, it didn't work at all, things don't work the same for all.

I don't think you can read Japanese, to be honest.

I can read Chinese.

>My friend passed the N1 exam
Well, not shit. N1 covers 10k~ vocab while 30-40k+ is needed for literature as well as 1k+ more kanji. Also nip kanji vocab is highly irregular so in a lot of cases guessing the readings correctly is not possible for unfamiliar vocab.

I recently had my onomaetopia lesson where among other things I learnt ニコニコします literally means "to smile" and now all I can think of whenever I use that phrase unironically is this cursed gremlin

I don't even watch idolshit all I know of her are Zig Forums posts

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Another user, because I'm aware I'll never use it for anything other than my own fun, so I'm only learning fun things, i.e. kanji and reading.

Your friend should read more VNs

>Also nip kanji vocab is highly irregular so in a lot of cases guessing the readings correctly is not possible for unfamiliar vocab.
This is not true. A bit over 50% of kanji use typical pronunciation based on their right side radical, I wrote a paper on it.

i have hira and kata down, learning grammar with vocab
i have nouns and adjectives down, right now im at verbs and its going ok
i hope in a few months i can read N5 material