too long; didn't read -- amazon.com won't let me buy anything off of it unless i have a show them a billing statement with the last 4 digits of my bank card on it.
i'm not asking for help. and i may not need help. just putting this out here. i posted this on /g/. they actually accepted it, in the context that it was not deleted and banned, for a long time back then. so i thought maybe it's relevant to Zig Forums. i should also say that i'm not really Zig Forums. basically. "lol i don't know how to money". i'm not rich. i'm poor. but. i just wanna be able to buy stuff from the internet and amazon.com and stuff without all this red tape and garbage making my only options iphone device garbage.
basically i used amazon.com for years, made new accounts with different e-mail providers sometimes, and never had a problem for years. suddenly amazon.com said i was suspicious, or there was "fraud", even tho i explained that there is not, i was banned andor apparently permanently "locked", asked for a billing statement, i showed it to them, they said it's not accepted and not to contact them about it or basically "fuck you you're banned fuck you". so i tried new accounts, sort of worked, then had the same issue again. ... amazon.com is asking for a billing statement with the last 4 digits of a card. so i've been trying bank cards, and checking billing statements, to find the last digits of a card, but i can't find them. i talked to the bank, and they tell me they can't show me a billing statement with the last 4 digits of a card right now, and tell me a billing statement will come in the mail. so. i just wait for that. that's what i'm doing right now. ...
i'm not a malicious person. i can only get certain items on amazon.com. etc. etc..
anyway. so i'm just struggling with this. hopefully i'll be able to solve the issue by myself eventually. hopefully. anyway. just wanted to give this a quick run-by to you. hope you enjoy it.
I deleted this thread before the 30 minute time limit before. Because I don't want this thread to pointlessly go on forever. I want to be able to manage my thread and self-moderate, and stuff.
I remade this thread because everyone replied at the last minute.
Let's see how this goes.
Enjoy.
David Baker
>This is like the modern Underwater Weight Test
what do you mean?
Noah Hill
Kill yourself op
Cooper Barnes
Kill yourself user
Thomas Sullivan
>>there was "fraud", even tho i explained that there is not > >LUL
my life is like an unbelievable episode of a sitcom. alike seinfeld. or something. didn't even wanna do it.
that and it's sort of like other websites alike newegg may also be giving me issue, and asking the same thing. so i'd rather have it, and do it, right now, so i can buy stuff on the internet again.
also i should note that walmart.com doesn't give me issue and just lets me buy what i want. but sometimes doesn't have things i have.
it's basically stuff alike amazon.com , newegg.com , and apparently aliexpress.com that give issue, and stuff.
the smaller websites alike walmart.com don't give issues. apparently.
Evan Evans
Start a company to compete with amazon and buy products from your own company
It's a paradox because what I'd need to start my own company requires I use amazon.com anyway with my budget.
That and the company could not volunteer to post on my website anyway, and only opt for amazon.com and few to no alternatives.
And. Again. I'm not Zig Forums. "lol i don't know how to money". I am poor. And I can't even buy something from the internet right now. Let alone start a company. Anyway.
A Pajeet that has access to your SSN/id is able to create credit cards in your name, a reasomable way for a pajeet to realize profit is to create multiple accounts and submit a vareity of orders; as they would increase the chance of orders arriving instead of 1 account and everything being blocked.
Amazon has, and should assume that a pajeet has gained access to your ID and is trying to fuck you; so they request something that needs to be verified with a financial institution.
>make new accounts on a whim that is literally the shit that will get you flagged, did you read my post? they are trying to cover their and the actual cardholders ass if it is fraud, and it sure looks like fraud
Hudson Ross
I'm joking you fucking dunce. You type like a redditor, maybe you should post your question there
William Hughes
lol you are a shady weirdo
Daniel Martin
I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN AND YOU ARE JUST NOT GETTING that:
multiple accounts with the same name, address and other information will be flagged because most users just use 1 account with multiple cards, if you need to migrate delete card info from your account and request amazon to delete it. It literally looks like you are getting cleaned out by some fucking pajeets. If they see a flagged account with your name(wich could either be because you have so many accounts, or someone has gained access to your old account) they will and should freeze everything.
Gabriel Davis
.. Oh. Well it's not that. And I'm sure I would be notified about that. This is apparently only an issue with amazon.com , and stuff. I think it was a problem with the bank before, on the banks side, but I went the bank "in-person" and cleared it up, I think. I'm sure I would've been contacted about some sort of legitimate fraud, after all of this time, but I am not. So.
Amazon.com should not assume anyone cracked my account, because I told them that was not so, and even did everything amazon.com told me to do before; So now I wanna try to make sure I have what they're asking for exactly quickly. It was fine for years. They shouldn't need to demand and force more personal information. Walmart and stuff doesn't need to dot hat.
>>make new accounts on a whim I was able to make new accounts on a whim if I wanted to. That is not literally the shit that will get me flagged. I did that for years and there was no problem. I did read your post. They didn't have to "cover their asses" for years. Because there is no problem. It does not look like it's fraud. The only reason it looks like it's fraud is because they bring up that it looks like fraud out of nowhere. I was able to do this for years. Over-reacting idiots caused the problems.
Robert Clark
I'm joking you fucking dunce. You type like a redditor, maybe you should post your post there
Cameron Butler
lol you are a shady weirdo
Jace White
I get it. I don't agree with it. But I get it.
Nonsense. I made multiple accounts for years without issue. They caused problems and started to lock every account I was using out of nowhere. I also use just 1 account. Then I want to change my username, or change e-mail provider. There's no rule against that, I was able to make the 2nd account, the 3rd account, the 4th account without issue. Clearly, amazon.com did not care. Amazon.com was cool. Was cool. I shouldn't have to request amazon.com to delete it. Because I didn't have to do that before. And they lock my account, so I can't do anything on that account anyway. Nonsense. I did this for years. It looks like amazon.com are "fucking pajeets", as it were, if anything. Well if they make it a "flagged account" for no reason and cause these problems, then that's their fault. Again, I had so many accounts for years without issue. I was never notified about anyone gaining access to my account. It was always me. They shouldn't freeze anything. It wasn't an issue for years. Really.
Ryan Smith
>why are you using it then tho? I think there are amazon stealth accounts out there.
i don't want to. but i have to. at times, it's either amazon.com, or aliexpress.com , or some chinese website. you'd think amazon.com would be more legitimate , but it doesn't see me as legitimate enough, but won't tell me why.
Henry James
i don't want to. but i have to. at times, it's either amazon.com, or aliexpress.com , or some chinese website. you'd think amazon.com would be more legitimate , but it doesn't see me as legitimate enough, but won't tell me why.
amazon.com is like an angry person that can't express themselves.
it's like i'm in couples therapy with amazon.com or something.
like a rich and powerful psychopath or something.
> YOU'RE SUSPICIOUS AND FRAUD AND I LOCKED YOUR ACCOUNT AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU SENT ME A BILLING STATEMENT I ASKED FOR I LOCKED YOUR ACCOUNT STILL AND DON'T CONTACT ME ABOUT IT!! > why? > I'M NOT TELLING YOU!! I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT!!
yeah, this conversation is really going places ...
yeah, this really lets me know the problem, so i can fix it ...
can't even fix the problem when i do everything amazon.com tells me to do ever.
that's sad.
Levi Allen
Amazon.com used to accept everything, alike walmart.com .
Amazon.com was seen as a lesser version of ebay.com in the past.
Amazon.com became a super-powerful monopoly, and now gives me shit.
Angel Green
holy shit fuck you. you deserve whatever you are getting just use 1 account or migrate them normally
>I told them that there was no fraud happening ANY FUCKING ASSHOLE WITH ACCESS YOUR AMAZON ACCOUNT WILL PRESUMABLY HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR EMAIL. this shit is like trusting North Korea that hey have no nuclear weapons after questioning their nuclear program
>it does not look like fraud IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR GETTING ASSFUCKED BY RANJEET FOR ALL OF YOUR MONEY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW FRAUD DETECTION WORKS,
Bceuase you have so many fucking accounts and have a diffrtent email for each one they have no way of verifying your identity since too them there a like 10 possible versions of you, and since you are flagged they assume all are comprimised since there is no way to confirm without documents backed by a bank
Joshua Richardson
holy shit fuck you. you deserve whatever you are getting just use multiple accounts or use stuff normally
>ANY FUCKING ASSHOLE WITH ACCESS YOUR AMAZON ACCOUNT WILL PRESUMABLY HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR EMAIL. this shit is like trusting North Korea that hey have no nuclear weapons after questioning their nuclear program Well, they don't. So. I did everything amazon.com told me to do. So. I didn't get any indications that anyone took anything over. So. I'm kept in the dark. So.
>>it does not look like fraud >IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR GETTING ASSFUCKED BY RANJEET FOR ALL OF YOUR MONEY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW FRAUD DETECTION WORKS, No it doesn't. I did this for years without issue. It looks like they're pajeets assfucking themselves, as it were. Do you not understand that I had multiple accounts for years without issue. It's day and night. Suddenly everything's all right. Suddenly I get all this trash.
I had many accounts for years and different e-mails for each one for years. I only used 1 at a time, and only used a new account to replace the previous one. Even then, using multiple accounts as an experiment worked for years. I already verified me and said it was fine and didn't cancel anything or anything. So. If I am "flagged" then that's their fault. Well, they're wrong, and they compromised themselves with being over-reacting idiots. I don't need to do this with walmart.com or anything else. That more personal information shouldn't be necessary, since I cleared it up anyway, and they started this for no reason. Apparently. Welp.
Thats it fuck you OP you are actually retarded fucking brainlet. Im not arguing that the amazon detection system is right, it could have flagged you for looking at a item wrong or some dickhead accessing one of your older accounts, idk. To them and their systems one of your accounts is flagged, since you have so many they have no way of telling which ones are compromised. Because they believe an account is compromised they assume that messages saying "no its fine" are from a pajeet. So they need a verified statement that says you are the real you and not a pajeet pretending. It doesnt matter if you recived an indication or not, to protect themselves and the actual cardholder from fraud they need confirmation. Your poor account creation practices have put you into this position with them facing a byzantium generals problem on what accounts to trust and which ones not to, they assume they are all compromised.
Michael Anderson
im not sure where you got that presumption but threads are shown by bump order, and if the thread is active then it stays at the top of the bump order and isnt deleted
Camden Walker
Did you read a guide on /r/Zig Forums or something? what does it mean you cant monitor this thread tf? You deserve this, go to plebbit, goodbye OP
