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no idea, but modern romcoms like Kaguya keeps doing that and I'm tired of that shit. Had to drop the anime on ep4 because it went fucking nowhere

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>Kaguya
spoiler alert: they are in a relationship now
read the manga

Let's get married?

>What started this trope? Why is RomCom manga so shit?
Self-insert wish fullfilment?
It's supposed to sell the dream “hey you, kissless virgin, there are actually people in love with you right now, you just don't notice.”

Most romantic comedies don't do it; only the wish fullfilment one's, which typically aren't even “comedies”, not sure why they get called that.
Actual“comedies”, that one actually watches to laugh like Love is War don't really do this stuff.
Comedies? I mean chads aren't good for comedy are they? Comedies typically have very dumb and idiotic characters to laugh at.
Even in Love is War; Miyuki and Kaguya are first introduced as total chads at the top of the popularity hierarchy — and shortly thereafter they pretty much behave like bumbling fools, whom one can laugh at; it's a comedy, after all.

There are plenty of love stories with them that aren't straight comedies. Try: Testament of Sister New Devil, Super Lovers, Bunny Girl Senpai, Syakugan no Syana, Love Stage [the t.v. adaptation stops before Izumi becomes a film star], Hidan no Aria.
There's Maid-Sama! I guess, which is a straight comedy in which much of the humor is derived over Misaki and Usui being unrealistically good at everything — though Misaki's still a tundere that's a bit in denial about his own feelings and that of Usui; I wouldn't call it “dense” though.

Why cant I self insert as Shirogane?

No one in Kaguya is “dense” — they both realize each other's feelings; they're both just too proud to make the first move and are scheming to coerce the other to.

I would say “because he's not a self-insert”, but I've seen many a self-inserter not being stopped by that.

Really the only obstacle for the self-inserter seems to be gender for whatever reason. These dudes would sooner self-insert into a tertiary character that hardly ever appears that matches their gender, than a main character typical self-insert that doesn't.

Post tits and timestamp or gtfo

must be because Miyuki is actually moving his ass to acomplish his goals. You see his development and Kaguya's later in the manga.
The problem with the manga is its focusing too much on the side characters right now.

shit genre attracts shit audience which means the work needs to stay shit or the audience gets filtered

>tfw no romcom where the roles are reversed and the woman is the sheepish beta whereas the man is the one making advances

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Kaguya is literally all about both of them knowing they have feelings, they're just too proud to admit it, Kaguya is literally the only series doing it well right now.

eeeeh reverse harems.

>a flip flopping manwhore
>chad

>girl is tough, good-looking and no-nonsense
>protagonist says something incredibly banal, like "X doesn't have to be anyone else - X is X!" or "I wouldn't mind eating your food every day!"
>girl is immediately a blushing, stuttering wreck

Have these girls never had any interaction with anyone else? Have no-one complimented them before?

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define chad

Read any shoujo series.

>Saotome Senshu
>Himeno-chan
>Bouquet for an Ugly Girl
>Kabocha Wine

Tougo from Dumb Prefect is great because he's so dense that he can never be anything other than honest and constantly makes Poemu wet because of it even if he doesn't realize it.

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y-you too

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I came here just to point this absolute mad lad. He is dense but in a such a chad way. I also like how Poemu isn't 100% tsundare about it while still being annyoed by it. So far things are gooing smoothly and I expect that this will end somewhere at like chapter 30-40

Are any of the major romcoms like this anymore? Kaguya isn't, Tonikaku Kawaii isn't. I never read the quintuplets one, is that what you're talking about?

You mostly see it in stuff that isn't a romcom and is just using the cliche for fun like Isekai Ojisan or in dumb 4-koma like the huge breasts office lady one.

>Kabocha Wine
Dude is a complete asshole.

>I never read the quintuplets one, is that what you're talking about?
The male MC is pretty much asexual, but he's not a bumbling beta and doesn't take shit from the girls.