So Zig Forums who's the GOAT shounen mangaka and why?
I'd say overall it's got to be Akira Toriyama. >long reign >dominant in japan >most iconic characters, scenes, moments, etcetc >world renown >pushed manga and japanese animation around the world >comes back again and again >largest impact on future shounen mangakas >actually changes and creates new shounen meta and troupes
>inb4 Kishi Naruto was 1 series with a weaker run. >inb4 Oda Popular in japan. Unknown elsewhere. Also only 1 series. >inb4 Osamu Ok great-grand-boomer. >inb4 Kubo The Hack
>Togashi I would say Togashi really embodies shounen well. Maybe even better than Akira. YuYu tourny arc possibly the goat tourny arc.
On the other hand, while both yu yu haitushow and hiatus x hiatus are good. They are constantly inconsistent in releases. Shows poor planning, execution, work ethic, and also either lacking in planning or outright not writing ahead.
Yudetamago literally invented the modern shonen with Kinnikuman. Everything Dragon Ball does was done before by Kinnikuman.
Camden Taylor
I like how Saitama , in the anime, is pretty devastated as soon he realizes he's back to winning with a single punch.
Lucas Turner
>Yudetamago >Kinnikuman Osamu did more. Most people outside of Japan probably never even heard of that.
Jordan Rogers
>Tezuka doing anything for battle shounen >what people in the West have heard of having anything to do with what influenced other creators in the 70s/80s >"Osamu" Go back to wherever you came from, you don't know what you're talking about.
>long reign Toriyama's major works (i.e., the ones people remember), Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball, didn't run for all that long. 18 volumes for Slump, 42 for DB, making a grand total of 60 volumes. That's less that Kishimoto's 72 volume run of Naruto, Oda's ongoing 90+ volume run of One piece, Tezuka's legacy in general, and shorter than Kubo's 74 volume run of Bleach plus the upcoming Burn the Witch series. >dominant in japan Same goes for the mangaka you listed. Osamu even has a very sought after award named after himself. This doesn't even go into mangaka like Togashi, who still involve themselves with the Jump scene and read new manga and give advice. >most iconic characters, scenes, moments, etcetc That's debatable, considering how what's iconic is different depending on region. I'm certain shit like Goku going SSJ3 is iconic here, while over in Japan it was pretty lukewarm as popularity in DB was already going down at that point. >pushed manga and japanese animation around the world So did Naruto and Bleach, as well as Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2, and that's limited to America. Japanese media was already popular in non-English speaking countries. >comes back again and again He really hasn't though. He just advises on works not actually drawn by himself. Meanwhile, Togashi, Oda, and now Kubo are still drawing (and there are also non Shounen mangaka like Fukumoto who works on like 3 series plus assisting on 3 others at a time). >largest impact on future shounen mangakas Again, not really. Americans only see the surface level like "Look, Naruto is blonde and has blue eyes", when Kishimoto freely admits he drew a lot of inspiration from not just Dragon Ball but other popular manga of the time and a lot of his character archetypes and some of his arc concepts are inspired by Yu Yu Hakusho. >actually changes and creates new shounen meta and troupes That's Togashi. Transformations were already big before DB. I guess young to old protagonist is a big deal.
Bentley Campbell
this
Liam Perry
Go Nagai
Sebastian Taylor
Togashi literally praises Toriyama everytime he can.
Kayden Gonzalez
This, unironically.
Landon Flores
>Oda unknown elsewhere not even remotely true.
Nathaniel Russell
only right answer.
Camden Cox
it is
Sebastian Cooper
you are a retard
Henry Reed
>Shounen Togashi. It's long since been decided. He hands in sketchbooks for completed chapters, and has his (more successful) wife fix them up a bit, and it still looks like garbage. But editors and Jump and especially the fans will suck his dick until the day he throws in the towel fully.
>Seinen Takao Saito. Golgo 13 has been running since twenty years before I was born, with a simpler structure/formula than almost any other manga out there. The man knows how to make a comic.
Gavin Nelson
>battle shounen Read OP again speedtard
Thomas Hall
>manlet >chad lelno
Ryan Myers
This thread clearly isn't about Yotsuba or Cross Game, user.
Nathan Walker
Go Nagai. King of trash manga. True OG of shounen. Tezuka was too good, too pure, too high quality. Go Nagai embodied the true spirit of the adolescent boy, plenty of nude women, gory violence and weird perversions, and an utterly juvenile understanding of the world. This is the manga you pick up on the news stand on your way to school, and then have to hide from your mom because your mom thinks its rotting your brain (and honestly it probably is). The kind of manga that smells of cheap newsprint, ink, cum, and sweat, and instant ramen farts.
Go Nagai is the Id of manga.
Juan Allen
Which mangaka have the best and worst work ethics? Worst has to be either Miura or Togashi imo, no idea about the best
Jeremiah Ramirez
>best Magician (1998, one shot) Rave Master (1999–2005, 35 volumes) -Plue's Dog Diaries (2002–2007, 3 volumes) Mashima-en (2003, 2 volumes) – collection of one-shots: Magician Fairy Tail Cocona The Adventures of Plue Part 2 Bad Boys Song Magic Party Xmas Hearts Fighting Force Mixture Monster Soul (2005–2007, 2 volumes) Fairy Tail 2006–2017, 63 volumes) -Fairy Tail Zero (2014–2015, 1 volume) Chameleon (2008) – one-shot remake of Atsushi Kase's title Monster Hunter Orage (2008–2009, 4 volumes) Nishikaze to Taiyou (2010, one-shot) Hoshigami no Satsuki (2014, one-shot) Edens Zero (2018–present, 10 volumes) -Hero's (2019, 1 volume)
So three long series, two short series, 3 short spin offs, and around a dozen one shots. For a total of 121 volumes of manga published so far.
