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Because he criticised people who sacrifice millions of lives for their own ambitions, he criticized idealists who use violence as a tool to push their ideology, and he claimed that all he cared about was peace.
He broke the peace to rebel and sacrifice more lives for pure ideological reasons, when he was offered a place in the government by Reinhard and they ultimately wanted the same thing, to make the lives of the common people better.
Yang thought that wasn't good enough because his ideology didn't win.
It felt petty and very hypocritical. Its also a hypocrisy that he espouses democracy whilst being a literal autocrat himself. He was literally the dictator of Iserlohn. The same with Julian and Frederica desu. She wasn't elected yet she is apparently the sole administrator of the Iserlohn "republic"? Sounds pretty autocratic to me.
And all this ended with Reinhard showing Julian a kindness and giving autonomy to a single star system, which probably wont last once the prince comes of age and reconquers it.
The whole alliance side of things just felt under-developed and poorly written at times.

I'm tired of people pretending this anime is good. Most boring scifi I've ever watched.

Go watch some Marvel shit and live forever.

>You're late, Mittermeyer..

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>he claimed that all he cared about was peace
I...don't think he ever said that? Again, fighting for democracy was sort of his whole deal. Like he spent his whole life doing it. I'm pretty sure I would remember if he said at any point that all he cared about was peace. Do you have a quote you can point to that you're getting this from?

As for the criticism thing, most of the time when he criticized politicians it was for using war to increase their own power or influence, not push their ideology. Very few other characters in the series were ideologues in the first place. If you're referring to the Patriotic Knights then there's quite a difference between fighting in a war to defend your beliefs and a paramilitary organization using terror tactics against unarmed civilians, so I don't agree that he's a hypocrite for criticizing them. I can't recall any other time when he criticized someone along those lines.

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>I...don't think he ever said that?
He said it more than once, throughout the first 2 seasons.
>Again, fighting for democracy was sort of his whole deal. Like he spent his whole life doing it.
Yes but there's a huge difference between fighting for a democracy that exists and fighting with basically guerilla warfare for an ideology.
>I'm pretty sure I would remember if he said at any point that all he cared about was peace. Do you have a quote you can point to that you're getting this from?
"There has never been 'permanent peace' in human history. But, there have been plenty of ages with decades of peace. In short, my hope is, haughtily enough, for a few decades of peacein the future."
>As for the criticism thing, most of the time when he criticized politicians it was for using war to increase their own power or influence, not push their ideology. Very few other characters in the series were ideologues in the first place.
Not ideologue but idealist
Reinhard is an idealist, just like Rudolf was
>I can't recall any other time when he criticized someone along those lines.
Rudolf, National Salvation Military Council

Why do you care so much about what other people like m8?

Now you go watch the ACTUAL best show ever made. Pic related.

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>duhhh you probably wwatch superhero movie
the mind of a loghtard
because your opinions are wrong
lmao

>I disliked Yang after he rebelled, it felt like a hypocrisy to me, and the show didn't acknowledge his hypocrisy

Yang wasn't a god, he was a human being. Humans are hypocrites.

It's not like yang was forcing people to fight with him, he wanted peace with a democratic government existing to protect rights and give a chance to the future, he mostly opposed reckless expansion not the defense of democracy. And he also went to el facil to be subjected to an autonomous civillian administration, the iserlohn republic was after his death.

What an unbearable faggot, all you come to do is shit up a thread to act smug for not liking a popular thing. Congratulations user, you are ultra unique

I admit "all he cared about" was hyperbole, he obviously cares about more than just that, but its still hypocritical to break peace for no good reason other than muh ideology if you said you wanted peace. He didn't want peace he wanted victory, which is no different than Reinhard.
Also he is a military dictator himself. He claims he isnt but lol.. The only reason the rebellion happened was because supreme leader Yang was going to be executed.

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I like popular things I just cant resist shitting on the loghpsueds. Someone's gotta do it.

Not sure how the anime handles it but in the books you can tell for sure that Yang had his hands tied and if he didn't rebel they would have all been fucked.

Nah Reinhard was a human, Yang was a mary sue with plot armor until his admittedly fantastic death scene. As much as I disliked him towards the end I still cried like a bitch when he died.

>Also he is a military dictator himself
But he isn't, he is under the el facil civillian government. Frederica is basically a dictator (dictatress?) Tho

El Facil are just following Yang though lol
Nobody would be there if not for him, but at least the show acknowledged that. Julian comments on the irony of it all after Yang dies.

>The problem is now how the hell do I fill the void now that this show is over?
Watch ecchi shows like Valkyrie Drive Mermaid.

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Yang has defacto more power due to his celenrity status, but it is mostly against his will. El facil rebelled before yang and yang went there specifically to serve under the government and followed the orders of said government restricting himself to advise and follow orders to the best of his ability. iirc He never coerced or acted against romsky and the politicians

Did anyone else notice almost every scene with people talking involves them drinking some sort of beverage
Wtf is up with that lmao
Its always wine or tea or whisky

So Yang was a hypocrite for fighting in a war because he said he hoped for a few decades of peace in the future? That makes virtually everyone who's ever fought in a war a hypocrite, doesn't it? Unless you find someone who literally lusts for eternal war, pretty much any time anyone fights in a war it's so they can have peace in the future on their terms. In fact in that very quote he's acknowledging that permanent peace is impossible and war is inevitable, so I don't really understand how you can accuse him of being a hypocrite for fighting in a war which he himself thinks is unavoidable.

As for Reinhard, sure he had ideals but they really were never what Yang criticized him for. I don't think Yang ever gave a shit about Reinhard's desire to rule the galaxy or fuck his sister or whatever you think he was fighting for. Yang just disagreed with the spread of autocracy, whether by violence or otherwise. That doesn't make him a hypocrite.

And it's true that the National Salvation Military Council were fighting for ideals, but I don't think Yang criticized them for fighting for their ideals as much as for launching a military coup to overthrow a democratically elected government and then oppressing and massacring the people they were allegedly fighting to protect. Doesn't really make Yang a hypocrite to criticize them for that.

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