Objectively speaking, what is the 'deepest' anime? Parameters being most lateral thinking needed to understand it...

depth = complexity in this case. try thinking of the visual image of layers.

Fpbp. Writer is the most based person to ever exist.

Lain or Key are the embodiment of post-Eva "deep" anime. Realistically though someone who makes a work insisting they have something to say has, in reality, nothing to say at all.

Oreimo, it really explores social standards and isolation in a cute and digestible way...

those stars make you think......

>Key
>Post-Eva

Maybe the manga
It doesn’t even have an official conclusion yet

absolutely this

>Striking psychedelic artwork, with a strong David Cronenberg-touch.
>For all fans of anime like ''Ghost in the Shell''.
>An impressive piece of cinematic art. Exquisite! Masterly!
Well, Zig Forums? Are they right?

Yes

Yes but you have to see yourself, if you have some taste you'll understand why it's so priced and hated by dumbbrains. Just please don't stop in layer 3-5 and come to Zig Forums to bitch about don't understanding.

I'm not sure, but from what I've watched and enjoyed Ero Proxy was amazing for me, and I imagine the general public wouldn't get it or like it. The later half starts to get weird as far as linear story telling, and lots of metaphors and weird 4th wall stuff.

Yeah, bro! it was so heckin' deeep Lolll Xd

BTW, have you heard of playdough's cave? it is this really obscure philosophical concept and you kinda need to read alot about it to understand smartperson animes like this

Explicit intellectual references are weakest from of coming off actually "deep" It show you've only partially grasped the concepts you've heard without actually grappling with them and forming them into your own words and meaning, you're just quoting. Ergo Proxy is good example of that "raison d'être" over and over again.

Texhnolyze is my recommendation because for me it wove it's concepts into the entire story, the setting, every character and the personal actions they took while leaving it mostly up to the audience's interpretations. Lain is a close second as it does the same while being great commentary on the internet and it relation to human self especially when you consider when it was made in '98 and you compare the themes to social media of today.

The best "deep" shit doesn't show what it thinking or tell the viewer what to think, it's to make the viewer think for themselves.

This

Tatami Galaxy and anything else by Tomihiko Morimi.

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Despite it's depth, it is honestly quite accessible, because there is a lot of appealing surface elements to it as well. It was one of the first 20 series i saw, and i enjoyed it a lot even back then.

>Explicit intellectual references are weakest from of coming off actually "deep" It show you've only partially grasped the concepts you've heard without actually grappling with them and forming them into your own words and meaning, you're just quoting.
This is completely dependent on context. If the references aren't arbitrary, and are coherent with the themes of the work it can ''come off'' as genuinely thoughtful and ''deep'' - showing that they are grappled with and used within meaningful contexts. But yes, it can also give an impression of shallowness.

Le ironic dudu strikes again.

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That assumes that thinking is valuable for thinking's sake, and not because it leads to insight. Assume somebody has thought about a subject, and somehow could communicate their conclusions to a recipient. Are those insights now less valuable because they are not the recipient's own thoughts? I say no. Insight isn't diminished by sharing it.
I acknowledge that in practical terms, people can't truly absorb insight without processing it for themselves, but having it broken into very clear and consise chunks allows more people to wrap their head around it. Conveying the message in a roundabout way is a mostly mutually masturbatory way of doing it, where the author congratulates themselves on the intricacy and subtlety they conveyed the message with, and the audience gets an ego-boost by being part of the crowd that is smart enough to unravel the meaning.

>It doesn’t even have an official conclusion yet
That post was clearly a shitpost, user.

Gah, Ergo Proxy, I'd watched it recently. It could have been great if it were any good. Shallow moralizing combined with every potentially interesting conundrum being tied up neatly within an episode really turned me off from it, not even mentioning the fact that the writer accidentally confused 'being intelligent' with 'not giving any info'. Add severe whiplash from shoddy episode transitions I went online to check if I mistakenly skipped an episode when I got the to QQQQ and we've got a show that I would believe is someone's favorite, but didn't really resonate with me.

All that being said, Pino is a miracle and the main reason I don't feel like I wasted time watching the show.

>The best "deep" shit doesn't show what it thinking or tell the viewer what to think, it's to make the viewer think for themselves.
Objectively true and a necessary prerequisite for a show being considered any amount of 'deep'. 100% of shows that lack this quality are either shallow or pseudo-intellectual. Unfortunately we have to remember that asking an average media consumer to activate more than the minimum necessary neurons is a complicated way of saying commercial failure.

Who knows? The fans of that manga are insane

what’s key?