Do you like BNA?

Do you like BNA?

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It was okay.

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I thought it was the best adaptation of Claremont's X-Men we've ever gotten.

Seriously this show is a shameless rip-off of like, 6 different X-men storylines, and it's fantastic for it.

was pretty fun but holy shit the combination of trying to cram a 2cour plot in 1 and using the shitty shitflix batch release schedule made this absolutely forgettable despite it not being a bad time in the miniscule time it lasted

It's almost as if they're both racism allegories spiced up with superpowers for action show appeal and thus likely to end up with similar conflicts.

I loved it actually, it's not amazing but it really felt like it tried (and was mostly successful) in hitting all the right "points" that make an amazing anime. I was really impressed at how much they were able to pack the story in just 12 episodes. Of course, some messages and themes weren't as cleanly developed and you could argue that it may have accidentally sent some dumb messages, but I liked what they were going for. I also was bracing myself super hard for the last few episodes to fall off as everyone warned, but I didn't really feel the drop off that others did. Perhaps others got their expectations too high based on the first half? It closed off basically everything I wanted in a satisfying manner. Things like the whole idol concert part, and Michiru's confrontation with Alan at the end were great. The baseball episode was incredibly tight and also a standout with a great message.

Maybe part of it is because I knew nothing about it besides it being Trigger, and I was pleasantly surprised. I liked LWA's 1st cour but the story really fell off and lost what it had going the 2nd cour. I didn't like KLK much either. TTGL is one of my favorites of course, and I really liked Promare. Promare and BNA are my fav Trigger works so far.

I did feel though that the last episode had some tone/pacing issues. The first half was fine but all tension seems to be lost around the middle during the part Michiru joins up with Nazuna. There was no music or anything either so it just felt really dry and weird to me. It was hype when they got their plan going to broadcast Shirou's howling, and the OP started up. I loved that. And I also loved Michiru's confrontation with Alan, though I feel that one zoomed out cut of Michiru waving her arms around during the speech was really lacking and ruined the impact a bit. It looked too comedic and cheap. I loved Alan being impatient though and Michiru's mic throw.

It was interesting but I didn't like the reveal at the end (I felt it should have been foreshadowed more) and the pace was just way too fast at the end. Maybe if it was 2 cours like said it could have been good, but it was just ok.

I liked the first half more when it felt more like an urban fantasy/thriller of sorts. Like animal people living in a semi-futuristic city where there's some shady pharmaceutical company hiding out is a cool set up.

But the 2nd half seemed to squander it a lil, maybe just because it's very on the nose and ends up feeling like a shonen more than a pulpy fantasy.

I'm confused why they decided to add in the berserker mode thing though. Like doesn't that justify racism against the beast men and legitimise the humans, thus undermining the anti-racism allegory?

Continuing:

On first watch, Shirou's fight with Alan after Michiru's speech felt OK, but the music didn't seem fitting being all serious and gloomy again. On rewatch, it started to feel like the flow/tone was really messed up. If only there was a way to climax everything at the end of Michiru's speech, but I suppose they weren't able to. It felt like it dragged a bit with Shirou's fight though I can understand that they needed to wrap up Shirou's development by having him be less vengeful.

Once again though, from that point on I felt the music was really whacky. Was there really no way to direct the rest of the episode to the song of the ED? I really wanted to hear it one more time. I feel it could have started playing somewhere right when Michiru gives her little monologue about Shirou after Shirou doesn't kill Alan.

The final track playing during Shirou and Michiru's convo at the end also was really whacky and unfitting... the last ~15 seconds of it was fine though.

Sorry for rambling but is it just me that felt the tone/music choice was really off in the ending, and also halfway through the episode when Michiru joins up with Nazuna? I'm sure it's partially a writing issue too, but still.

Also was it just me that expected Nazuna's drama with Michiru to have been the main focus of the 2nd half? I loved the end of Ep 6 with Michiru running off. However instead it seems like the 2 friends basically made back up with each other quietly during the scene where they're riding the car together and hear the ED. It was a really nice scene but I suppose I didn't expect that to be the resolution of their drama. I do like how characters act somewhat realistically throughout the show in that they don't have exaggerated breakups with each other when they disagree about something, but I was expecting a little more out of the Nazuna/Michiru drama.

Curious about what you guys think if anyone took the time to read this.

I expected a lil more from the Nazuna/Michiru drama but the concept of them naturally reconciling over time felt right.

I think where it stumbles is that the show isn't clearer about whether Michiru is supposed to be an unreliable narrator and Nazuna was always that way or if Nazuna has been changed by her experiences and become more jaded.

I think you can make an argument for both but the set up and execution is a lil lacklustre.

Despite that, I do prefer the idea of them reconciling because they're still in synch with each other intuitively, rather than a final episode heel turn after some sappy speech. Because at least it's not patronising the viewer.

>BNA
>LWA
>KLK

Why does trigger like 3-letter acronyms?

How many furries are on Zig Forums?

Yeah, I can kind of see where you're coming from. At the very least BNA was the better x-man rip-off than X-Mob 100% super bob.

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>I'm confused why they decided to add in the berserker mode thing though. Like doesn't that justify racism against the beast men and legitimise the humans, thus undermining the anti-racism allegory?
The first half was the same, depicting beastmen as savages and their society as a survival of the fittest type thing. It's a perspective on race and multiculturalism different than what you would get from western media, that acknowledges that minorities need to be civilized before being able to live among the japanese.

I liked the Baseball episode. Everything after that was forgettable though.

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It's VERY SPECIFIC though.
>Cat mayor is Xavier but with Magneto's backstory
>Main Villain is Apocalypse
>Sentinels
>Genosha
>Shirou is Magneto proper but secondary Apocalypse
>The Purifiers are there
The list goes on, though admittedly the comparisons get less legitimate from there.

I'm not saying BNA is bad for being inspired by X-Men, far from it, it's fantastic, but when you've read a lot of X-Men the comparisons are easy to see.

>implying beasts weren't a straightforward stand in for joggers
>implying joggers aren't gonna jogger
>implying joggers can be civilized
this show went straight over your head

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What exactly was the message of this series
>Discrimination bad, but our species is also physically incapable of living together. Also our biggest enemy is ourself

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I mean if Imaishi was the director I could believe this being deliberate, but I doubt Yoshinari knows X-Men.

Thanks! I think I agree with you, that's a great point about why it felt lacking. I think them making up quietly made sense, but as with the rest of the show, they are cramming so much in that many things are only resolved in a minimal manner. And that they didn't really give clear answers on things like whether Michiru was just not truly listening to Nazuna in the past, or if Nazuna was changed and thus Michiru made the wrong read.

I haven't thought about it much but I feel like it was a mix of both. Nazuna getting a bit full of herself from finally becoming an idol and acting like she didn't need Michiru's help to talk to the mayor, and also Michiru being overly enthusiastic at times and not taking the time to really ask or listen to what Nazuna is feeling.

The thing I feel was probably clear though is that Nazuna was wrong when she accused Michiru of only saving her and being nice so that it'd make her feel good. Michiru genuinely cared about her, and I'm guessing the point was that when she tried "saving" Nazuna again, Nazuna changed her mind and knew she was wrong. Hence the car scene, where she felt bad about being wrong, while Michiru also understood that Nazuna has changed (or is different from what she thought in the past) and moved on up in the world without Michiru.

Because of the scene where Nazuna eventually calls Boris gross, I would guess they were trying to convey that Nazuna started to agree with Michiru a bit more. But like you said it again doesn't seem super clear if she always felt he was gross and just didn't tell Michiru, or if she reverted back a little to her old self.

Tha minorities will chimp out when they are forced to be together and try to civilize

I loved the music and the backgrounds. Everything else was mediocre to bad. LWA season 2 died for this and I'm still a bit salty

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Yipes if true.

Though, personally I took the framing in part one as a narrative foisted onto beastman society given how it didn't really align with the reality of city.

It always felt like when people acted out or asserted themselves bombastically, it was because the city with its limited oversight and small government allowed for broader means of self-expression that in turn engendered a more liberal/anarchic society.

Thus any outlandish behaviour actually seen could be as easily chalked up to socio-economic factors, rather than an innate proclivity towards savagery. Much like how Blacks are over represented in inner city crime statistics, but Blacks also are massively over represented in crowded tower blocks/poverty rates/unemployment rates and education outcomes, which are known significant factors in increasing the likelihood of an individual to drift towards a life of crime.

One of the first things we see is a shot of a beast man rights poster graffiti-ed with racially charged language and shortly after we get to the scene where Michiru is almost shot apart for the crime of being a beastman. So the framing definitely feels off if that was the intended message.

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don't FUCKING say that it's just postponed a while goddammit

Imagine watching with those shitty speed subs.

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LWA died because its writer literally died.

Yes.

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>The first half was the same, depicting beastmen as savages and their society as a survival of the fittest type thing. It's a perspective on race and multiculturalism different than what you would get from western media, that acknowledges that minorities need to be civilized before being able to live among the japanese.
Based.

They had plans about a second season until recently though.
Also, it's pretty much confirmed that they called the protagonist Michiru after LWA's writer, right?

yes

netflix ruined it

Tell Tom Nook I'm not paying the debt