*dies abruptly in your path*

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>Nia's death on the other hand, was completely pointless

I hope everyone who complains about this ending, simply missed the part where Simon could've resurrected her but chose not to, because that's an anti-spiral move. Otherwise you kind of missed the whole point of the show.

>wahhh i didnt get my candy sweet ending
yea really

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>Magin sends someone' to the surface when th population reaches over 50 people because otherwise the citizens would've starved
>Lordgenome puts humanity underground to prevent them from multiplying and keep the anti-spiral from killing all of humanity.
>Rossiu tries to sacrifice most of humanity to save some by escaping the planet
>Anti-spiral keeps other spiral races down to keep the spiral nemesis, which threathens the entire universe at bay

Yeah, let me just resurrect Nia real quick, guess we can get Kamina and Kittan back as well. Who gives a shit about the consequences

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How do people not understand the purpose of Nia's death? TTGL is a coming of age story for Simon. Kamina embodies the theme of the story, that you should keep moving forward, even if the future is uncertain. You'll never get anywhere if you only look back. When Kamina dies, Simon wallows in grief and can't look forward. He can only look back at what was lost. He spends several episodes like this until he finally moves forward and stops dwelling in the past. That is the significance of Simon letting go of the illusion world where Kamina is still alive, because he's not moving forward. He and Nia are outright told she will cease to exist if the Anti-Spiral is destroyed, but they resolve themselves and once again move forward. She dies at the alter, and Simon does not break down and wallow in grief like he does with Kamina. He has come to the end of his character arc, and he has accepted his loss. That's the very reason the Spiral Nemesis continues to be a threat in the epilogue. It could happen, and it may happen, but that doesn't mean life should follow Lordgenome or the Anti-Spiral who stagnate and prevent growth. To outright stop all the negatives was never the point of the story. It was to not let them hold you back.

neat pasta

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It's tad more close to this. But then Musashi dies every time.

it's amazing how derivative ttgl was in spite of how much ass it kicked

Diebuster and TTGL are big homages to Getter Robo more so for latter.

I like that the ending is not perfect. A perfect happily ever ending shouldn't build upon the corpses of your enemies and your allies.

i've seen gunbuster and ttgl but not diebuster. not a huge mecha fan but maybe i'll try
sometimes it is though

SRW fix the ending with Nadia giving Nia 80 years, it kinda makes the whole fight tad moot plus Lagann hen spared most of cast aside Kittan.

>sometimes it is though
Give me example.

A perfect ending doesn't work for TTGL. If all consequences could just be overpowered like magic, there would be no risk in moving forward, and it would lose all thematic meaning.

eh it's subjective but hokuto no ken. its bittersweet but it's happy enough.
its perfect for a 26 episode anime with no sequel

I mean that a happy ending where everything is wrapped up without any problems doesn't fit the story. There needs to be that ambiguity that something could happen. This is why the idea of a sequel just doesn't work. I've seen people say that they need to stop the Spiral Nemesis and that justifies a sequel when it's literally the opposite. That potential failure needs to be there. The ending of TTGL is perfect for the story and themes it conveyed, even if it's not "perfect" for all the characters.

i'm having a hard time following you. i'm not aware of any disagreement between us but are you saying its a happier end if the story can continue or if it wraps up?

I think that the happier ending would have been Nia surviving and them stopping the Spiral Nemesis and Simon bringing everyone back and everyone living happily ever after knowing they could do anything if they just believe in themselves. That's the ending most people seem to want.

I think the better ending is the one we got where we can't have our cake and eat it. The message of the story wasn't that we could do anything, it was that we shouldn't stop moving forward out of fear for the what ifs and could haves. To be able to circumvent any consequence removes the what ifs and could haves, so moving forward without them has no meaning. It's through our struggles that we grow.

I heard he once called Kittan the n-word so this is justified.

It's weird TTGL and FLCL and entry level but I never knew anyone who watched Diebuster even though it's just as good. Even Gunbuster is still fairly popular.

Diebuster begs to be compared to Gunbuster by virtue of being a sequel, and it lacks the feeling of one in a lot of ways. I like Diebuster, but I wouldn't put it on par with TTGL, FLCL, or Gunbuster.

It was a mistake to tie it into the original. It carries on a lot of the themes and imagery in a way that modernizes the spirit of the original without needing to continue a story.