Just what you'd expect from the master, Mr. Anno

Urusei Yatsura episode 133

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Thank you, based user.
The guy was such a great animator, wish he could make key scenes for other anime as a guest like James Baxter.

dude Trigger and Gainax is the same thing
If you like Trigger, you like Gainax
vice versa
If someone likes one and hates the other, theyre ignorant

that logic worked until you said vice versa

Yeah, I really needed another 4 minute scene to see that Asuka doesn't really like Rei. This scene could have never existed and the anime would have continued just the same. There isn't anything of vital information shown or anything that the characters do or should say in this scene, so it was added only to elongate the runtime of the episode.
So don't try to look into this scene too much to look for clues or character development, because there's none at all.

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>4 minute scene
it's one minute man, which is much different than 4, why do you have to exaggerate it?
>This scene could have never existed and the anime would have continued just the same
perhaps, but whether it was to pad the episode, or to conserve money, it's only a minute long, is a nice frame and has minor subtext.
while it's addition may not add much, it certainly doesn't detract much either.
I personally like the scene, as I feel the tension.

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>So don't try to look into this scene too much to look for clues or character development, because there's none at all.
> it was added only to elongate the runtime of the episode.
just because its a long scene doesnt mean it was ONLY to padd out runtime, its not like it was the only time it was done, and like I said, its a Japanese thing to linger, not only that lingering can add tension
and you cant just say that, esp not without evidence, we learn plenty in this one scene, and I dont even know if youve watched eva in the first place
>There isn't anything of vital information shown or anything that the characters do or should say in this scene
we learn that Rei woud die for NERV(wink wink)
we learn that Asuka hates her for being a doll(wink wink)
we learn that Eva's arent just dolls(wink wink)
we learn that Eva's are affected by emotion
Rei was trying to tell Asuka she needed to open up but she was being stubborn and didnt try to respect the Eva
a picture says a thousand words
I havent watched Eva in a while, theres probably more to get out of this scene
and it doesnt feel that long, if it was too short the impact wouldn't have been there
(not really something that makes it good, but)it also reminds us that NERV is huge

>why do you have to exaggerate it?
What is an hyperbole?
The """""problem""""" is that people seems to believe they must defend scenes like this one just to pamper Anno, because he is great and evangelion is great and he can't do anything wrong! So everything that appears in the series was added because it must be there and, of course, has a meaning!

>its not like it was the only time it was done
And most of those other scenes were added for that reason as well, to get more runtime so they could save more money, not to add hollow tension or learn more things.
All of those things you just mentioned happened before the elevator scene except the scene where the eva01 gets unleashed I think, it has been a while since I watched it, so the fact that said things were mentioned again didn't add anything to the plot at all.

>And most of those other scenes were added for that reason as well, to get more runtime so they could save more money, not to add hollow tension or learn more things.
>All of those things you just mentioned happened before the elevator scene except the scene where the eva01 gets unleashed I think, it has been a while since I watched it, so the fact that said things were mentioned again didn't add anything to the plot at all.
>The """""problem""""" is that people seems to believe they must defend scenes like this one just to pamper Anno, because he is great and evangelion is great and he can't do anything wrong! So everything that appears in the series was added because it must be there and, of course, has a meaning!
art isnt that simple
you cant just say it has no meaning without evidence
pretty sure the stuff I mentioned wasnt said before but Id be glad to see examples
I certainly dont remember all those things being mentioned, even if they were, its good/more foreshadowing
we understand that the show had its issues, I think the coolest thing about it for some people is how the staff improvised(not sure If Id call it that)
also it's a trope
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UncomfortableElevatorMoment

forgot to mention that not only does Asuka hate dolls, she also calls Rei a doll(because she is)

I think your bias might be causing you to be close minded
obviously everything he does isnt good/right, but you also cant say he doesnt know what he's doing, he's not a hack

>art isnt that simple
No, but basic punctuation is.

>I think your bias might be causing you to be close minded
I don't really hate the elevator scene itself or anything, it wasn't my intention to let you know that. The scene itself is "ok" I guess, it doesn't add anything it doesn't subtract anything.
But again, my """""problem""""" is the people that try to squeeze out every drop of information they can when reading too much into this particular scene because I genuinely can't understand the need of doing so. Things like the evas being affected by emotions or that Rei would die for Nerv or Gendo were already hinted beforehand and the flashback where Ritsuko's mom strangled a younger Rei would obviously tell you a few things about Rei's nature since she's, you know, alive, but I don't remember when this flashback happens, so correct me if I'm wrong.
And that's pretty much my whole point:
>I don't really hate nor love this scene, but I think it's kinda pointless
>There are some pieces of information said in the scene that could have already been guessed by the viewer or were already mentioned in previous episodes
>People that like this scene holds on to those pieces of information to defend it and say that the scene isn't pointless, since it gives said pieces of information that could already be guessed or that already were hinted

>to get more runtime so they could save more money

I'll have to double check, but I believe in the director's cut of this episode (the cut not limited by time/money restraints), they ended up adding to this scene by a few additional seconds.

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super eyepatch wolf, the guy that gets stuff wrong on his videos
dont know why he talked about so much stuff that wasn't even relevant to the scene itself, couldve saved that for some kind of analysis or something
more like "In defense ot that one elevator scene but let me tell you everything I know about eva to pad the video out to around 15 minutes"

This scene probably wasn’t needed but the other 2 similar to it are good

>>There are some pieces of information said in the scene that could have already been guessed by the viewer or were already mentioned in previous episodes
I don't disagree, but this can be applied to a lot of scenes in Evangelion. It's a show about ambiguity and implying shit. The very first angel fight is basically a cut to black and you only learn what happened from characters talking about it and one flashback scene that only appears at the end of the next episode. It's a show that cuts down on action scenes to have things like Shinji staring at the ceiling in silence, and that's not just in the second half. That's why I don't like calling that scene "pointless", you can call it pretentious or "budget conscious" and make a good case for either, but I don't see it standing out as serving no purpose. We already have a piece of Evangelion media that removes "pointless" scenes. It's called the Rebuilds.
Pic unrelated.

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I dont disagree with you but haveto correct some things
> The very first angel fight is basically a cut to black and you only learn what happened from characters talking about it and one flashback scene that only appears at the end of the next episode.
not what they were going for, it was to leave some mystery that pays off when we see it later and makes the second episode less boring by not just having us just seeing Shinji move in
>It's a show that cuts down on action scenes to have things like Shinji staring at the ceiling in silence
yeah he does stuff like that, it happens, but not THAT much
There are so many action scenes in this show it's basically a monster of the week show, theres only about 1 episode without a fight and the last 2 of the tv show, having scenes where characters sit around and talk a bit is super normal
>We already have a piece of Evangelion media that removes "pointless" scenes. It's called the Rebuilds.
I kind of get the joke, but theyre just plain bad, not only did they remove things, they added in bad things, nothing about them is good other than being an example of how bad something can be

>> The very first angel fight is basically a cut to black and you only learn what happened from characters talking about it and one flashback scene that only appears at the end of the next episode.
>not what they were going for, it was to leave some mystery that pays off when we see it later and makes the second episode less boring by not just having us just seeing Shinji move in
actually, rather than saying not what they were going for, I should say this isnt an example of toning down action, but a clever way to pace things and show the aftermath and leave us guessing how everything happened

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this is a waifufaggotry thread, not a mechaspic thread

>Eva
>mecha
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thanks for conceding, spic