they call them "Fantasy" what are those people talking about?
People told me there were isekai without people getting transported into another world
Jordan Young
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Dominic Young
>inb4 native isekai
Landon Jackson
SAO isn't isekai
Evan Moore
native isekai
Nathaniel Ortiz
Is goblin slayer an Isekai?
Gavin Sanchez
on one hand goblins are from another "world"
on the other that world is the moon
so it's sci-fi because it has space travel
Jonathan Myers
>SAO
>isekai
I said it before and I say it again: If SAO is actually considered an isekai, then would I be considered at multiversal powerlevels if I destroyed the VR system main servers along with any back-ups that might exist?
If the answer is no, then that'd be an admittance that SAO is not isekai. If your answer is yes, good luck convincing anyone of that.
Nicholas Wood
SAO is proto isekai. it popularized a lot of the tropes waves of amateur authors would copy trying to recreate it's success.
in the same way 28 Days Later was the proto zombie movie despite pedants like you having whined about how human with rabies aren't undead so they can't be zombies.
James Peterson
Except it's not isekai. MT is proto isekai.
Henry Stewart
MT shares most of it's DNA with traditional fantasy. the hundreds of trashy isekai people complain about are modeled after SAO.
Asher Stewart
So? SAO isn't isekai, MT is.
Second life in a real magical world.
MMO fantasy like SAO existed before, but was never big.
Brody Williams
genres aren't named and sorted by technicalities. watch something other than trash anime.
Anthony Morris
>genre
Isekai isn't a genre, it's a trope about transmigration to another world.
And SAO isn't isekai because it has no other world.
Game isn't another world.
You're equating isekai to gameworld fantasy with [System], levels, skills etc.
Series exist:
>no transfer to another world, game elements
>transfer to another world, no game elements
TL;DR: You're an idiot and full of shit.
James Campbell
It does have another world, the world of the game.
Just because other isekais are too lazy to explain where their other world is doesn't mean that you can exclude SAO from being an isekai when it is so very similar in its DNA
James Miller
Game isn't another world.
You don't isekai when you Zig Forums.
Adam Carter
tl;dr if you say SAO isn't an isekai you're an autistic faggot with too much time on your hands
Jace Stewart
The appeal of isekai is that it takes what fantasy has evolved into in games and feeds it back into literature fantasy.
It's the opposite of mixing genres, it's genre incest.
And just like real incest, it's hot and it produces abominations half the time.
Noah Fisher
Who are you quoting?
>similar in its DNA
See >You're equating isekai to gameworld fantasy with [System], levels, skills etc.
>TL;DR: You're an idiot and full of shit.
Samefag. Who are you quoting, retard?
>fantasy has evolved into in games
Read more isekai, plenty without game elements at all. Also not a genre.
Elijah Bailey
genre is decided entirely by popular opinion. that's all it is. learn how your own language works.
Charles Butler
MOM LOOK IVE ISEKAIED MYSELF
Nathaniel Watson
>normalfag majority argument
Nah, fuck off: no other world = not an isekai.
You fucking idiots would call anything with game elements isekai.
Owen Carter
>28 Days Later was the proto zombie movie
What?
Justin Price
God, I wish I was isekai'd into my favorite game
Owen Cook
>28 Days Later was the proto zombie movie
>1968
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Mason Carter
You don't need to have game systems to copy game fantasy.
When your setting is copying the environment, economics tropes and story progression of games, but doesn't do stats and skills, it's still based on games.
Tyler Ward
You faggots arguing if sao is isekai or not are the same retards that argue if hxh is a soft seinen or not, the fuck is this thread
Samuel Howard
If you throw shit out - that's not "copying" you idiot, by definition.
Noah Wood
>it popularized a lot of the tropes
no, it literally didn't.
Michael Hernandez
>en.wikipedia.org
>credited with starting a revival for the zombie genre
before then zombies were all about literal voodoo magic. they're as different as the original Dracula and modern teen romance Twilight vampires.
Jaxon Peterson
>games conform to a certain structure because they're games
>because they need to to make sense within the gameplay loop
>books copy that structure because games popularize it
>"it's not from games, it's just fantasy, it's not copying anything :(((("
Levi Cook
>majority argument again
Kill yourself normalfag
>>"it's not from games, it's just fantasy, it's not copying anything :(((("
Yeah, there are isekai without anything from games. You're just a shitposter that doesn't read any and considers himself an expert on topic after watching SAO. Fuck off.
Justin Hernandez
MC isn't from a different world, though literally all the antags are. its actually rather similar on asking whether muv-luv is an isekai because Betas.
Ryder Gomez
but theyre from the same universe so it's sci fi