Why are non-medieval/renaissance era isekai so uncommon? What makes them so more appealing for most then, say, the Victorian era?
Why are non-medieval/renaissance era isekai so uncommon? What makes them so more appealing for most then, say...
Sebastian Johnson
David Young
Because in the 1970s Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson, Terry Brooks and Del Rey ruined fantasy forever.
Adam Gutierrez
Dunno, but give me my powder and shot.
How would you balance guns and magic in a way one doesn't overshadow the other in an era where professional armies are all fully-equipped with muskets? If you turn the muskets into magic weapons I'd imagine whatever increase in firepower that may cause might make line formations outdated much more quickly than in our world.
Jordan Barnes
I would imagine magic could be relegated to field artillery use. Slow but powerful.
Austin Lopez
Middle age is the high school setting of isekai. Accept it or get out.
Cameron Garcia
What's wrong with one being overshadowed by the other? Guns can be deadly to low-level mages/Beyonders/etc., but aren't much compared to high-level ones. There you go.
Josiah Foster
>What's wrong with one being overshadowed by the other?
Then it wouldn't be as fun. If magic was significantly more powerful, why even have guns? I guess guns overshadowing magic isn't as bad, though. In that case, magic could still have uses outside of combat.
But mostly it's just that I'd personally like to see a setting where they compliment each other. I don't see it too often except in a few games of genres I don't enjoy, like MMOs. And even then they're just a small part of the world, not the most common type of weapon.
Owen Richardson
Have guns because the majority of magic-users AREN'T able to completely resist guns. Only the high-level ones, which are in the minority. I mean it all depends on the magic system. That's how it is in LoTM, although in that case, magic isn't even public knowledge.
Cameron Murphy
Science has killed the fantasy aspect. People used to believe dragons/witches/etc before industrial revolution. That's why medieval period is useful.
David Perry
In lotm guns compliment the "magic-users" (beyonders) in that most forms of earlier magic isn't combat based; most classes (pathways) start off with supplemental abilities like increasing visual perception, heightening the senses, banishing spirits (which can't be dealt with by physical objects), etc.
Gabriel Powell
Worse yet, 100% of the medieval/renaissance era isekai shit has le ebil church, le technology knowledge out of ass or some stupid cheat ability/game element and is explicitly placed in europe with some stupid furry/dwarf/etc races
Grayson Evans
Because generic medieval shit is easier to do.
Parker Evans
>if magic is significantly more powerful why even have swords?
Austin James
That's a good point.
Carter Hughes
People still believe in religions. Or aliens. It's the same shit.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Why isn't anyone ever isekai'd into the future?
Oliver Phillips
If a howitzer significantly overpowers a gun, why would you even have a gun? Goddamn brainlet.
Sebastian Morales
This is one thing that I really can't grasp.
Especially since modern magic settings are very popular. Just look at Fate, Index, Mahouka or Arknights.
But isekai is still the same boring medieval MMO trash 90% of the time. It's almost like isekai writers were fucking retards who can't write.
Caleb Lewis
Because they'll be a retarded webnovel weeb who only knows how to make some fireworks powder in contrast to genetically engineered Ubermensch of tomorrow.
Daniel Flores
By guns are products of science and physics, physics have strict limitations. Magic on the other hand is no holds barred, while guns will reliably have the same effect, magic can be weaker or stronger.
An interesting exploration could have been how fireballs are completely useless because of the Leidenfrost effect, and guns are more useful as projectiles or causing immediate harm to a human, and that by using magic to compensate for the innate limitations of physics, you can produce more powerful effects, like increasing the reactivity of gunpowder, and by using a catalyst (gunpowder) to kickstart the reaction, you create more effective magic.
Jose Moore
Don't most of the modern otome/shoujo isekai take place in a mixed 18th/19th century setting?
Cooper Taylor
Because then they can't be the gary stu with wikipedia knowledge.
Jose Reyes
Yes. Because they have by far more interesting nobility. And clothes.
Ian White
>author bait-ish thread with chink shit in the OP
Court death elsewhere chink shill
Logan Diaz
just make people become more stupid in the future.
Hunter Thomas
Yea but most of it is explainable as naturalistic way. Its not just general belief that allows isekais to be medieval period, rather the fact is the world of medieval lack naturalistic explanation thus the default and only answer was fantasy
Gabriel Johnson
In most settings with swords and magic, magic doesn't overshadow the sword. They usually compliment each other in a way that magic increases the effectiveness of the sword. This is exactly what I'm looking for except with guns.
Except it doesn't. Not really. They have different roles and different downsides. Try bringing a howitzer with you inside a building. Or using a howitzer to clear an entrenched position or occupy a nation. How about using a howitzer to hunt an animal or to carry with you at all times for defense. Sure, technically you could. But it wouldn't be very effective, would it?
That could work. I like the idea of using different types of ammunition to cause different kinds of magical effects. Using magic to create an explosive bullet instead of using high explosive compounds would be an obvious first step, though not very interesting. One thing you could do is load up some artillery shells with illusion magic to disrupt an enemy right before attacking. I'd imagine this would be especially effective at countering any sort of magic defenses.
Samuel Richardson
Honestly an AI can probably make a more interesting and creative story
Jordan James
2000 years later all the books have been burned and the Internet has been wiped. Everyone with any knowledge of the past has been killed. Congratulations you just created an apocalypse story
Liam Howard
>Except it doesn't. Not really. They have different roles and different downsides. Try bringing a howitzer with you inside a building. Or using a howitzer to clear an entrenched position or occupy a nation. How about using a howitzer to hunt an animal or to carry with you at all times for defense. Sure, technically you could. But it wouldn't be very effective, would it?
Exactly my point you fucking dimwit. Guns and magic fill different niches.
Magic takes tons of practice and expertise (investment), which could be focused on creating grander results or simply having greater utility, guns are more accessible and though they can be used in a range of tasks they're still far more limited.
Magic can heal, make you breathe underwater or blow a castle's walls, or perhaps just make guns and cannons work even better, things that clearly fall outside the range of shit a gun does.
Kayden Carter
best power system
Jace James
Update it.