Can Oreimo be surpassed? Why has no rom com even come close

No, just the ones you know because for whatever reason many use the term “romantic comedy” for any romance story that's not a serious drama, which groups in much of the self-insert romance porn material.

Maid-Sama! was legitimately hilarious and in fact didn't have much in the way of romance at all; it was a straight comedy with some romantic moments — and there's plenty more that does so.

I don't think so, but i hope it would. We need another quality incest anime.

Always you retarded Kirinofaggots.

How do people with xy chromosomes unironically watch romances?
It’s not even manliness or anything, just how tf do you spend 20 Minutes watching “does he like me! He doesn’t like me nooooooo wait I think he likes me now!!!”
Embarrassing

>calling this quality when Koi Kaze exists.

>actual plot
>no self-insert
>tundere's feelings are explored and humanized, letting the audience feel his conflict and shame over his feelings, leading to his lashing out
>ship isn't nuked at the end to keep the moralfags happy
>no useless harem bullshit

It's leagues better in every way except for that it of course lacks “It allows me to self-insert, thus providing escapism from my shitty virgin life.”

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You honestly think this crap is like that rather than self-insert harem shit?

What it is this:
>one take a protagonist, and one ensure that he kept devoid of any characteristics
>allows the future to mentally replace the protagonist with himself
>one design a cast of highly attractive characters
>all the characters fall in love with said protagonist
>virgin XY viewer can now escape his shitty life by imagining himself with a huge harem.

They aren't love stories; they're wish fulfillment harems.

Surpass in what? Being shit?

you do realize maid sama is self insertion for girls right

I treat a lot of it like gambling on horses except I don't lose anything, apart from that one time. youtube.com/watch?v=dEvsGC-iMhs

No, because Misaki is not a self-insert — Misaki bursts with personality, opinions, traits, strengths, and flaws, and on top of that looks fairly good and not “totally average”.

Misaki is no more a self-insert for girls than Kirino is. The difference between Maid-Sama! and Ore.Imo. is that the former is an interplay, a dynamic between two characters, and the latter is basically Kirino's solo show, as perceived through Kyousuke.

Because Eromanga Sensei stopped drawing the imouto's ass and has no S2.

What is the appeal of Oreimo? Most of the girls are boring or bitches and the relationship between Kirino and Kyousuke shifted way too quickly. The comedy wasn't that good, the only likeable character was the Dad, and they pussied out on the incest which was the only thing the series had going for it.

Really good porn

The appeal is I need brother x sister romance, so I take what I can get.

Also,

Kirino and Ayase are for anal. Even if you don't like them you can imagine breaking their ass-hymens and since they're too busy being tsun it would be a shocking experience for them.

This turn to shit after 100 chapters.

Sinner-fag in full denial as usual

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>pussied out
It was an open ending, that's not the same thing

It was open in the books.

In the t.v. series it was as “open" as anything is open. It was just as “open” as that Toradora could in theory have at the end that Taiga and Yuusaku could in theory have been shagging at the end — nothing implied it, but it could in theory happen.

Even the open ending in the book when the ship first sailed and then sunk was silly; it wasn't put there for narrative reasons but because the published insisted and the auctor did not like it.

>fat sad sack falls in love with sister at first sight
>they don't even interact
>fat sad sack mopes for 10 episodes
>suddenly out of nowhere she says she's in love with him too
>they discuss suicide
>obvious allegory of their relationship failing as their meeting place is destroyed and the tree they wrote their names on is cut down

Koi Kaze appeals to brainlets who think pathos is an indicator of quality.

>>ship isn't nuked at the end to keep the moralfags happy
You obviously weren't paying attention to the ending.

You never read it right? “suddenly?” — the story focuses constantly on their growing relationship and Nanaka's shifting perspective. Going from first being full of anticipation to what Kosiro might be like, to disillusioned dissapointment with his brusque attitude, to seeing that underneath that cold exterior he's quite caring, to friends beginning to remark at school that he does talk about his sibling a lot, and, finally culminating into the moment on the train where they're forced to be really close to each other which makes both confused and realize that they are in love with each other.

This is what makes it better than Ore.Imo. — that it's not stātus quō ante nonsense, but that every chapter alters their relationship and that their relationship a quarter in is completely different from at the start.

One can pretty much skip 10 episodes of Ore.Imo. without even noticing, because their relationship stays the same from start to finish until Kyousuke finally confesses at the end — and then the next episode starts again with Kyousuke being a bitch.

There's nothing “sudden” about it.
>You obviously weren't paying attention to the ending.
final page

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>and then sunk
As the other user said, you weren't paying attention. Hint: in the LN, the kiss was on lips. And with jap norms (at least as portrayed in anime), even the cheek in the anime is a decent clue.

I know this thread is bait but Kaguya-sama is genuinely the best romcom to date.