How do fellow poorfags cope?

I'm specifically asking those who arent on some obvious roadmap towards "making it" but rather just exist on hopes of getting there.
I'm 33 and barely make enough money to pay my rent, I earn minimum wage working retail, I have no capital whatsoever, the most money I've had in one moment so far in life was $3000 last year when I sold my Chainlink at $4.

I wasted too many years as a complete nihilist, all of my 20s were spent drifting in and out of homelessness, girlfriends, jobs, drugs and moving between cities, at no point did I even consider the future as being anything worth existing in to. Something changed during the lockdown period, some spark ignited within me and a lit fire under my ambition for the first time ever, which itself seems to have doomed me to another decade of living in even deeper darkness than I had any idea existed at all, as I had no idea how unbearably shit life can be when you actually want more from it.
The gap between where I am now and where I want to be to even begin my journey to a normal life is so extreme that kmsing myself isnt even that irrational.

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For an example of how fucked I am, at the age of 33 I am only now trying to save money to pay for driving lessons, which opens the door to getting a better job here and now, which opens the door to accessing some form of training, which will hopefully lead to putting together some capital to invest in some of the ideas I have, which will one day hopefully accumulate into something more, which might not ever materialise.
I ran away from home at 17, its been shit ever since, the only 2 things I have going for me in life are pretty meaningless in having my health and a high-ish iq, with the latter only a benefit in the moments whatever lingering mental illness exists can be suppressed.

Please somebody post some redemption arc/underdog happy stories, give me a reason to carry on.

Buy more link, thats how you cope.

>high-ish IQ
Yet you're 33 years old and havent done anything in your life and come on this board to moan about it
Retard lol

im 10 yrs younger than you but ive literally completely wasted the last 5 years of my life. i am not in any way closer to my goals than i was when i was when i was 18. im only 5 years closer to death and nothing else. thinking about it, especially now as i continue to waste away on an image board, drives me insane.

truth is its not that hard to become a basic competent citizen. if u really have the drive u can still go to some cheap trade school at age 33 and become a plumber or something, join a union, and by age 35 you'll be making easily enough money per year to comfortably live on. but if ur like me then its way easier said than done. u gotta leave Zig Forums and get up and start immediately working towards a goal instead of just formulating and dreaming. which is something i have not been able to do. i just sit here and waste away with no willpower to change

Hey OP.

Ok so until my 25th I had fuck all and was le party drugs and girlfriend man, like you.

I got fired at a job and I then put the only 10k I had into crypto. Now I am doing pretty good even though I crashed my new car, that I bought with crypto gains. I am not getting a replacement.

Ok so financials aren't actually that important. Try to get right with Jesus and God and the rest will follow, seriously. work on being fit healthy and a good person. Luck will blow your way. stop cooming.

Is ther any way to be able to get out of that rent? cause thats the thing thats cucking you. can you not get some kind of tent structure ? I personally sleep on the floor for posture gains.

I just hope you make it fren. Crypto can be your way out just know that. it is my way out.

im pretty fortunate not to have to pay rent but if I didn't have a home, then I would sleep in some kind of tent or whatever I don't know .the important part is that you dump 80pct of your minimum wage into crypto every month. thats how you will make it 5 years down the line.

it will take like 5-10 years to build up 7 figures if you work hard and invest wisely

nothing you can do but take action

stop cooming, walk away from the computer. thats it.

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a good option you could do is try to find some kind of co housing deal. find a few people and rent a house together. so that you can cut your rent payments in half atleast, so you can dump atleast 500 a mont ( 1000 to 2000 prefered ) into crypto. do that for ~ 2 years, try to catch the uptrending assets every time you dump your paycheck in. then trade it back for bitcoin / eth / xmr other fundamentally strong assets. and wait, you'll make it in ~5 years.

Never give up

Sold my business and payed off as much debt with the funds. Started with negative net worth at age 30

Took a $50k cash from my credit card at 0% interest for 15 months

Invested in Amd stocks and options when it was around $6. Used margin to buy LINK

Currently at age 34 net worth over $1.3m

Hodling 85k LINKs

I should be worth 8 digits during this next crypto bull run

Even just getting a trade as a plumber right now feels like years away into the future, I guess if it could be done by 35 then who knows what could come of it but its pretty infuriating thinking about the years I've wasted.
I think I've spent too much time dreaming of late and twisting myself in knots, I find myself doing things that I know are totally out of reach like casually sitting on this machine looking for investment opportunities in both meme line virtual reality world and irl that I will never make, its a mental roller coaster, the rise i get just allowing myself to believe that some other life is possible only makes the inevitable crash back to earth more painful.

You could tell your story to 10,000 people and 9,999 would say that at your age its fine and youll be ok in the long run, especially if you have some drive to improve your state but I'm the 1 in 10,000 thats going to tell you from experience you really dont have much time, even at your age you must start immediately to make the changes you need. Theres been some pretty fundamental shifts in the direction the macro economy and society is going this year that by the time we hit 2025, we will look back on right now as the last opportunity to really have access to easy social mobility. Expect big changes legally in the crypto world, expect big changes in taxation and how we manage currencies, everything is going to be harder from here on out.

user, I have wasted 10 years of my life, 18-29 on doing literally NOTHING but being inside my house, playing video games, eating pizza and being depressed. Ur not alone, get right with Jesus bro. He will help you.

> can you not get some kind of tent structure
In theory I could, in reality it would result in me roping myself, been there multiple times in life and its genuinely not worth even considering, even on hard painkillers it was unbearable. Me trying to get a license now is partially to open up the possibility of being homeless but in a car or van, which would be a 100fold increase on the sleeping rough innawoods life.
If I was younger I'd look into hospitality or agriculture work with live in opportunities but no matter what I dream up in my head, right here and now I have a job and a place to crash, which again is no small achievement in itself and has to be the basis of where I go next, there cant be any stepping backwards and being homeless again would certainly be a step backwards in terms of my sanity.

>Took a $50k cash from my credit card at 0% interest for 15 months
How the hell did you get them to offer you that sort of deal?

Well done btw, the few k I made in link was all of the back of biz shitposting, the purchase wasnt so much about making an investment but rather just wanting to be part of the team here.

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I had credit cards and lines of credit that I opened since 18. I made sure to always make payments on time and credit score as high as possible

When the time came I pretty much maxed the lines out. It was a pretty much all in at that point

Luckily for me it played out in my favor. If it didn’t I wouldn’t file bankruptcy and started over

>wanting to be part of the team
The team is didn't read;never selling. You blew it.

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Will Jesus give me 100,000 dollars?
I'm sure there's a creator, I haven't come to any conclusions on absolute fatalism yet but there's definitely forces in existence with a hand in our lives that are out of our control.
However I'm sadly all to aware that whatever the source of that force happens to be, they have a horrific sense of humor, they aren't benevolent and they absolutely have no problem in torturing us.

By all means have faith in whatever you want, just don't presume its a one size fits all solution to evangelize about, I've never had a positive experience with Christians at any point in my life.

>midwit take
in a perfect world your kind would be sterilized and forced to work the fields while the dimwits and geniuses bred your moms and sisters.

>You blew it.
I used that money to put a roof over my head and buy a new set of clothes to get back into the wagie life.
Living in a hostel in Houston, surrounded by literal Africans (not just burger blacks), checking binance on my phone to see we had gone back over $4 for the 4th time it wasnt exactly a bad time to get out.

Just start saving/investing. Work hard now and have fun later.

I was just going to ignore it.

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LINK will be over $1k

You sold yourself short OP

How much debt?

unironically learn to code

Hello OP
As a 37 y-o man first of all I'll say that 33 y-o is still young. Realistically you could turn your life around and land a legit career-tier job within 2 years, and then work until 60 y-o or something and retire.
The only thing you need to do is obviously cut all expenses and live a frugal life, and then figure out what kind of job or education you could acquire. I personally don't know the situation in Houston or US in general, so can't really recommend anything
Just stay strong and put in the work to change your life. I know it won't be easy, but I believe in you

God bless

Making it is pointless, look at Avicii or that guy from Linkin Park, you just end up killing yourself or on drugs anyway.

The point of life is to find meaningful goals and work towards them. When you get there you need new goals. Repeat til you die.

Set up a goal to have some money to invest, maybe 5k. A new high for you. You don't have to become a multi-millionarie, it's a useless endevour anyway.

Similar situation.
I am 26 and didn't accomplish anything in my life. I got into the trades, and worked there for a bit.
Then went abroad and worked there for a year and travelled around a bit, as the pay in my country is shit and I fucking hate my options here.
Decided to study Computer Science, for the money and location independence.
Now after three years about to drop out, because I am competing with literal autists, and nobody hires an below average white incel anyway, when there are autists (who outperform me in every way) and thots (for diversity) and it's also not my passion.
No fucking idea what I should do now, but I am on the same path as you are and it scares the shit out of me.
I thought about switching subjects and study something else. But nobody will employ a 30 year old with zero work experience in this field, if it is not Computer Science (which again I don't like). So I only would end up wasting the rest of my 20s in classrooms, which pisses me off as well.
I own nearly half a /make it/ stack though. So hopefully I will be good in 5 years. But I don't want to count on it.
Apart from this, I actually want to accomplish something in Life. Not just getting a bunch of money and then be a NEET forever.
But whatever I do, I can not find my calling in life.
On top of it, the whole system is a fucking scam anyway and rigged against you, so that doesn't really do any good in helping my ambition and motivation.

I hope you figure something out OP.
All I can say is: Buy as much Crypto as you can. You obviously can turn around your life without Crypto as well, but it is way harder.
Also do not kill yourself. You would only do (((them))) a favour.
And you don't want to do that, no matter what. Also start praying to God. It kinda helps me a bit to not be a depressed piece of shit all the time

Not so fast.
Look at the information presented, I sold my link for $3,000 at around $4, I bought 750 of them at 50c each, I made $2600ish profit by the time the dollars became available to me. I was also living in a hostel full of immigrants.
As the alternative to accessing that money was likely suicide, prison or heroin, it also put me in a position to start earning money again as a retail wagie, which although secondary in deciding the real worth in selling is still valuable.
Lets be wildly optimistic and say link hits 1,000,000 bucks eoy 2026, my stack would be worth $750,000,000 minus taxes. I would also likely be dead and thus we multiply all net worth by 0.
I cash out my cute little stack, stop living with niggers and instead earn $150,000 in wages over those 6 years as a wagecuck, multiple all of that and whatever other money I make along with it by my number of lives, 1, to see that it wasnt a bad time to cash out.
And besides, I'm not even sold on CL being the winner when the time comes. Smart contracts, decentralization and encryption are definitely the future, smart contracts are coming and will have to be adopted by everyone eventually, though theres no guarantee that chainlinks solution will become the industry standard no matter who they work with. The entire finanical and tech world has been centralised around companies that were not innovators in their fields, facebook, google, apple, microsoft, amazon etc were never innovators, just far more kosher managed alternatives once the real investment rolled in to crush those who came first.

$0.

Stop whining and overthinking shit while sitting around. Go fucking do something, anything to start.
to start
>work out at least a little bit everyday
>shower and use deodorant daily
>quit smoking, doing drugs and drinking
>cook food at home, balance and variety are key
>meditate/go for walks at night without distractions. You need time to process and think about shit.
>write out your monthly budget, plan and improve everywhere you can
>work towards your driver's license
>improve your resume and write out some good cover letters
>pay off high interest debts and credit cards ASAP
>look for apprenticeships, correspondence courses and other low income learning opportunities but don't get scammed
>do you have any skills or art you can sell kn the side? Even if it's meninal labour go fucking cut grass or shovel snow for chump change because currently you have more time than money
>start saving even a tiny bit every month will help
Small steps. I was like you once too but I turn 33 this year and I just bought a house, second vehicle and finally saving for my future.

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Jesus will give you what you need. Not what you want. That is a lesson the years have taught me.

>I've never had a positive experience with Christians

This is where your problem lies. You think Christians = Christianity.

>

>As a 37 y-o man first of all I'll say that 33 y-o is still young.
I know technically its young when considering the expected normal lifetime person but its not really that young to be starting from $0, had a I had a few years experience in virtually anything I would be half a lifetime ahead of where I am now.
Thats fine though, I just need to plan against those conditions, I cant be looking at career choices that will take a decade to manifest into something worthwhile. I know that at my age and position theres a hell of a lot less options and more urgency but there arent 0 options.
Appreciate the kind words though.

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OP you sound like an insufferable twat, but I'm going to do my good deed for the day and try and convince you that killing yourself isn't your best play. You had almost 1K LINK but sold, so you've doomed yourself to the wage cage. Here's how to make sure it's at least a deluxe cage.

At 33 with no skills, capital, or even a driver's license you're 15 years behind the curve. It's going to take some drastic action to get you to where you should be in life.

If burger, try and join any of the branches of the armed forces. Literally any job, but ideally the airforce. If you're as clever as you say you are this shouldn't be a problem, and there are waivers for your age. Talk to a recruiter and see if anything can be worked out. You will be provide you with food, shelter, structure, steady pay, and time to go all in on investments and plan your life. Ideally you get a job that provides you with the opportunity to segue directly into a civvy job, and just like that you're on track to retire by 65 like the average normie.

If this is unpalatable, then trades are your best bet. If you're as clever as you say you are then go for a more skilled trade like Electrician or HVAC. Take a loan, go to community college, and start working. Assuming you stick it out and become a journeyman in 4 years you'll be on track to retire by 60~. You might have to wage slave for up to a year to make this happen, but it can be done. Again, you dug yourself into this hole and it's going to be a hell of a struggle to dig yourself out.

I'd also recommend getting right with Jesus. Sounds like you need a higher belief system to combat your crushing nihilism. And the community of organised religion might be able to help you too. Do you have any friends or family to lean on? Any possible resource you can use to get ahead? Cause sitting on biz moaning isn't going to help - you need to take action.

Or just stack LINK and wait a few years lol

Looks saturated to me.
Not necessarily at the top end of the market but in the gutter end I would be competing in.
I already code anyway, I've had stupid little online projects in the past writing social media bots and python scraping scripts, a few years ago when I last had a place to live I was modding games as a hobby.
Turning that into something that could realistically make me money seems a world away.

>The point of life is to find meaningful goals and work towards them.
This is actually the best advice I read in this thread. I always started stumbling and became depressed, when I had no goals set. And I currently don't have a goal or a plan neither and I am in a bad position.
Also don't compare yourself to anybody else, this makes you even more depressed and does No good.
Only compare yourself to who you were yesterday. Try to be mindful in your daily life. It will do wonders. I know that it would help me.
And forget about /making it/ for now.
One step at a time for you at this point.
Once you make more money, then either invest in yourself or like I already said, buy Crypto.
You won't make it from being into the stock market most likely.
Also here is a redpill: Try to start your own thing and increase your cashflow if you want to make it. Nearly nobody gets rich from being a wagecuck, unless they made great investments in Crypto

>Making it is pointless
I would agree that just making it for making its sake is pointless, especially for anyone thats doing it to prove themselves to others, though making it doesnt necessarily need to be about money.
For example I have never had a relationship thats lasted more than 9 months, I've always blown it to pieces, having a goal of settling down with somebody in the future you could call making it and regardless of the volume of money some stability would make that realistic.
Its pretty much what you said, I've just never seen the term making it as being purely about money, though it sure would be nice to have some sort of fucking start in life.

Thats a sad story, what do you have planned next? Even if you dont know what the big endgame is do you have anything you want to do in the mean time?

Links not going to hit a million you retarded fuck. Your IQ must be a single digit