Can anyone explain me in detail the hype, surrounding this episode/fight?
I know the animation is exceptional in every regard but that can't be the only reason people treat it as the second coming of Evangelion, right?
To put it into perspective >Generic overpowered villain, we met just a few episodes back, with absolute no great motives to mention >no existing rivalry between the main character and the villain >Main character clearly losing, gets a random power up through sheer determination(hate that troop ngl), still losing, 1 nanosecond before getting killed suddenly has the time to remember a breathing technique his father apparently told him once about, has the fucking time to pull it off in a picosecond first try, wins
Obviously i enjoyed it when i watched it the first time, but idiots praising such a stupid ex machina fight, just makes me cringe
tl;tr why are idiots easily conceived by "epicness" that something is great, while it is pretty shallow in substance
the animation isn't even exceptional , the water dragon is alright, but the rest is really just digital effects doing most of the work, there is a part where the MC is running and it looks like bad CG. it's full of character standing still and limited creative vision or direction. the only thing that is good is the part where the dragon turns from water to fire, the rest is stuff that Ufotable did better in both Kara no kyoukai and Fate/zero years ago.
Nolan Flores
>but the rest is really just digital effects doing most of the work How is that a bad thing? It's like complaining about something that looks good by just saying "you like it only because it has pretty colors!"
Thomas Jones
> why are idiots easily conceived by "epicness" that something is great, while it is pretty shallow in substance If things are shiny that's enough for most people. Before I watched this episode I heard every celebrity in Nippland praising it as the best thing ever, without anyone asking for their opinion. That already felt like forced viral marketing and people are just parroting those opinions because they lack self-esteem. Was the episode good? Yes and you might think it was exceptional if this is the only thing you ever watched. Do you need to rewatch it? No. Was it memorable? Hardly.
Lincoln Myers
Watching more closely you might be right.. well its mediocre/bad in any regard The anime community as a whole must be filled with retards it seems
Jordan Gray
>animation is exceptional in every regard but that can't be the only reason people treat it as the second coming of Evangelion, right? You really don't know the anime community huh?
>Generic overpowered villain, we met just a few episodes back, with absolute no great motives to mention Important because it's the first "moon" we met that has some of the power of the main villain, Muzan. >no existing rivalry between the main character and the villain The "rivalry" in this case is the definition of bonds and family they both have; that and that the mc's sister, what starts the story, is in danger >Main character clearly losing, gets a random power up through sheer determination still losing, 1 nanosecond before getting killed suddenly has the time to remember a breathing technique his father apparently told him once about, has the fucking time to pull it off in a picosecond first try, wins "Before 1 nanosecond of getting killed" is a trope yes, however it's acknowledged moments before when Shinobu says that when a person is about to die their soul or whatever looks in their memories a reason to keep living in that nanosecond. He pulls it off first try because it's not the first time he's done those moves; as the story shows, the movements are a family dance tradition they do every year. It's been stablished since ep 1 that he took his father's place since he died, and you can see him as a kid practicing the dance moves, so the traditional dance was taught to him already. He only realizes after becoming a slayer that what his father taught him is a breathing technique that can help him in this moment.
All that combined with the music and visuals makes for a great moment and I too enjoyed it a lot when I first saw it and now. Here's the problem with many overhyping it: It's very exiting watching it for the first time for many, and since what you most see are reactors on youtube and people retweeting something what you get is their raw emotion and impulse. Many who maybe watched other genre of anime or don't watch many are very easy influenced by these things that's why many said "Anime of the year!" just to bandwagon on this.
Josiah Martinez
for japs: >the silly ritual dances that they see as being part of their national heritage are the powerup for everyone: villain is a dark reflection of the hero's drives it's a right wing nuclear family based powerup in a right wing family based series it was foreshadowed by the earrings, the villain's flashback about the earrings, and his black blade all three of the boys get near death experience flashbacks in that arc culminating in tanjiros, it's a theme the full story of the powerup ends up being the most important background mystery in the series that gets resolved bit by bit in every arc
Angel Cooper
>Generic overpowered villain with absolute no great motives to mention You didn't watch past episode 19 did you? >no existing rivalry between the main character and the villain Holy fuck, go rewatch the spider arc from the beginning and pay attention this time.
i kidnap random people because i want a family isn't a great motive and there isn't a rivaly between them beyond the obvious "you wanna kidnap my sister so you are my enemy"
Nicholas Williams
>has the fucking time to pull it off in a picosecond first try Tanjiro knews the Dance of the Fire God since the beginning (which is why he has the earrings, they were passed down to him along the dance by his father) but to him it was merely a ceremonial dance you perform on new year's eve. What he remembered were the words of his father, that the dance was a breathing technique, so all he realised during his about-to-die flashback was that he could try use it with his total concentration.
>Can anyone explain me in detail the hype, surrounding this episode/fight? If you need something as basic as this explained to you then I have some bad news for you: you're not as smart as you thought you were
Noah Cook
The fact that's the only thing you managed to retain shows how much of a brainlet you are.
Benjamin Flores
Yes, yes, we all know that here at Zig Forums we are supposed to hate everything that is popular, MHA, BC, One Piece, SnK, and now is KnY.
Yes it's all generic, the main character sucks, the animation sucks, all sucks, nothing deserves praise. You faggots all act like you are some 1 in a billion exception, the one who goes against the wave. Kill yourself.
All of it pales in comparison to Mob Psycho fights but most people have no idea about what actual quality in anime means. How many people out there that shills 'good animation' have actually watched RedLine? Nearly none. The hype is justified because it comes from people that don't have the technical knowledge of how animation works, not being able to understand something as basic as this only highlights how autistic you are.
Henry Peterson
>Important because it's the first "moon" we met that has some of the power of the main villain, Muzan. An underling has some kind of magical power that is kinda alike but weaker than the main villains.. where have i seen that before? right, in most animes >The "rivalry" in this case is the definition of bonds and family they both have; that and that the mc's sister, what starts the story, is in danger They just met and while i see the themes of family bounds in this fight, its nothing special to see such shallow themes in anime and it just lacks real tension. I'm not saying that's bad, but it sure doesn't make for anything meaningful >He pulls it off first try because it's not the first time he's done those moves; as the story shows, the movements are a family dance tradition they do every year Everything aside, just breathing in would take more than a nanosecond, not even mentioning that making a dancing style into some kind of fighting style without any kind of training in that direction is just not reasonable. That said, i don't particularly hate it, but its still lazy writing and should have had some kind of foreshadowing
Michael Myers
I never mentioned anything about being smart, so please explain it to me, mr einstein.
Samuel Wilson
wow, calm down there buddy, just because something doesn't get praise 24/7 from everyone on a board that is for the discussion for such things, doesn't have to make you suicidal
Jace Hill
>most people have no idea about what actual quality in anime means Nigger not being best out of the best doesn't mean it's not good quality.
Aaron Watson
I mean, it was pretty cool. The spinning? That was a good trick.
William Cook
Cool visual. Real stakes. That's it. It's a 6.5/10 story with good execution. That's all you need to succeed nowadays but even so it's impossible to do for most studios.
James Walker
>emotional music. >decent animation. >decent fight choreo. >pretty lights. >Crunchyroll marketing You didn't, I'm the one bringing up that you're borderline retarded. The fact that you couldn't even understand the one sentence calling you out as dumb is even more puzzling than the main question of the thread.
William Perry
The "You (the evil baddie) treat your comrades/family/Underlings like shit and I (the main character) love my comrades/family/Underlings and will fight for them"- Trope is.. how do i put it.. the main plot for every shounen ever
Nolan Johnson
>animes
Nicholas Lewis
LoL at listening to normalniggers opinion. KnY is total garbage, end of story
Jordan Hughes
You people need to work out on your reading skills. I've never said it isn't good, just that people don't understand what qualifies as good animation and they don't, there's a reason you have people shilling KnY while shitting on Mob Psycho at the same time or people saying they love animation but would never bother watching the best the medium has to offer.
Kevin Turner
The problem is that everything gets hated 24/7, I'm fine with things don't getting praised, but how can you hate every single anime that will and is airing atm. Re;zero- Because they cut content ToG- Because it is generic GoH- Because Shounen generic I thought the "Zig Forums hates anime" was meme but holy shit
Charles Lopez
Stellar animation but the fire technique was a huge asspull.
Levi Edwards
main character's name is something on the level of "fire mcflame"
Asher Edwards
In Reddit the faggots love anything you throw at them, In Zig Forums we hate everything we get
Nicholas Mitchell
The manga version of this fight was just mediocre even by the series’ standard. Not sure how they’ll reach to the later fights
Camden Bell
>I thought the "Zig Forums hates anime" was meme but holy shit It's real, the only decent discussions you'll find here is inside mangachad threads until it gets ruined by anime adaptations
Mason Smith
Agree, but personally I don't care much since he didn't even beat Rui. If they killed Rui with it, I would have criticized the scene more.
Jaxson Gray
Well, maybe you are right, maybe it was just the marketing to retards that made it trend on twitter, because everything has been done much better in other animes.
