I'm gonna be the Pirate King!

I'm gonna be the king of kings

Goku did not want to be the #1. At least not like the same way as these guys where they have an actual title they want to obtain. I mean I guess you could say he wanted to win the Tenkaichi Budokai but that's not what Dragon Ball was actually about

Im gonnat be the very best, like no one ever was

the first shonen?

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Doesn't apply to Bleach, but Ichigo hardly has any motivation.

OK, but it was the one that invented the formula all these shows operate on. It was probably One Piece that first distilled it to "I wanna be the number one x", but that's not substantially different than "I want to be the strongest".

the first manga shonen written by matthew

>I'm gonna be the President of the United States of America!

I'd honestly enjoy a Shonen battle manga about a little boy named Bill Clinton who wants to grow up to be president

Hero's Journey, that shit hasn't become boring since the stone age

Ichirin no Hana user.

Nah, that'd be Gilgamesh. He even starts out fighting the guy who becomes his best friend Yu Yu Hakusho style.

Having any sort of motivation is better than not having one at all. It's like how people realize that Harry Potter is an incredibly unambitious protagonist that gets thrown into duty without any real drive. Would you like a protagonist that was satisfied with current events and has no reason to seek anything?

This isn't the Hero's journey, plebbitor. Hero's journey isn't about being the best, it's about saving your village. And you have to descend to the underworld aka leave your familiar setting to do it. Be the best manga do the opposite, the MC always grows up hearing about how great the big dick hokage is and wants to be one, and they progress through a fully mapped out understandable system to do it, whether it's the grand line or the ninja villages or what have you. There's never a moment when they're confronted with something they truly don't understand.

There's a huge amount of space between "I wanna be the best" and "I don't want to do anything". There's all kinds of other reasons to do things. What about trying to save your girlfriend from thugs? Why can't we have that sort of thing every once in awhile?

Ok Ozymandias whatever you say lel dumb nerd

While I certainly agree you need to have the hero be motivated having it be I JUST WANNA BE THE BEST X isn't really a goal. Whatever happened to "I WANT TO BE ALIVE AGAIN" or having to deal with a new responsibility due to the power you gained or even just saving your girl. Evening hunting the MacGiuffin balls is better than this non objective.

>Main theme of hxh is stated in last episode by Ging and can be paraphrased as "maybe the real treasure was the friends you made along the way"
Inb4 some retard says "hurr Durr you missed the point of the show low IQ derrrrrrrr" because it doesn't matter how right you are when talking about this show nor does it matter how easy it is to point out how simple and shallow the themes of this show are, hunterfags have brainwashed themselves into thinking this is some profound piece of modern art when it's mediocre shonen at best.

Demon slayer and promised Neverland beg to differ

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imagine being such a worthless sack of shit that you get upset about stories where the main character wants to be the best he can be.

Imagine missing the point and falling for cheap story telling

This is why Denji from Chainsaw Man works so well as a protagonist. He just wants a place to live and sleep in, some nice food, and some titties.

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Imagine being such a hollow shell of a person that you think unadulterated ambition is at all compelling or relatable

Where do you go from thugs? Will they have a GF that gets progressively taken from stronger thugs?
Obviously having strength purely for the sake of strength isn't the most interesting goal, but it's one that allows for a constant motivation. Usually they might find a much more significant purpose or objective along the way, like saving the world from being destroyed or ruled by some evil person, but if we're starting out it's useful.

>I want to be Devil King
Sure thing retard

That's like fucking with another person's dick.

So in otherwords Gon's goal wasn't to become the number one Hunter?

I'M GOING TO BE THE SHITPOSTING KING

>mc wants to be the best like no one ever was
typical.

>where do you go
Nowhere, either the show ends or you switch protagonists, rather than drawing shit out indefinitely for merchandising money.

>when you get so triggered that you go on a rant unrelated to the post you're replying to or thread topic
Calm down and take your meds.

I'm convinced OP is secretly some kind of post modern psy op faggot trying make us all think like crabs in a bucket. I'm putting on my tinfoil hat right now.

>can be paraphrased as something that supports my argument which i will view as objective fact despite it being my headcanon

>Where do you go from thugs?

Where do you go from being the best? It's a vague nowhere goal that doesn't really set the hero apart from anyone who wants to be the best. Why should we care about if our hero is the best when thousands of others have the same goal? Your hero needs a personal stake of objective beyond ambition which is frankly usually just shonen ego.

Saving your girl doesn't have to be the main or final objective but objectives can be malleable. Flame of Recca started out as a kid who just wanted to save his girl who eventually got caught up in a century long grudge between enemies as he has to explore the mystery of his past and powers. He doesn't just want to be the best ninja.

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