Giorno is unambiguously the worst JoJo
>Secret lovechild of one of the most important popular characters in the series
>Gains new abilities every chapter
>Experiences no real conflict throughout the manga, doesn't really have anything against Diavolo other than wanting to usurp his position while Bruno has a genuine grievance against him with the drugs and his attempted murder of Trish.
>Giorno's "loss" against each of those stands he fights never carries any weight, because he always comes out okay in the end. More often than not, him "losing " becomes part of some brilliant ploy later (White Album), is an intentional sacrifice on his part (Soft Machine) or he actually has a backup plan (Notorious B.I.G.) Even when Giorno loses both his arms, there are almost never any permanent consequences to his
"losses", so they just become another excuse for him to look tough.
>Multiple characters go on page-long rants about how righteous and inspiring he is. Those who do not like him either immediately take it back when they see what an omnichad he is (Bruno), or are immediately proven wrong and made to look stupid because of it (Abbacchio), who also ends up being the first of the gang to die.
>Son of a guy named "God" (Dio) who fights a guy named "devil" (Diavolo) with the power to create life and, at one point, raise the dead.
Giorno is unambiguously the worst JoJo
He was pretty good despite what Zig Forums regurgitates on repeat to sound contrarian, part 5's adaptation was also the best one so far. I loved it.
Reminder that being an allpartsCHAD is the true man's way, not being an autistic partshitter.
Who cares, part 5 was considered to be the worst since forever. Animeonlies would shitpost Jolyne as the best JoJo ever the moment stone ocean gets announced
Giorno was rather boring, so I agree there.
But this:
>>Son of a guy named "God" (Dio) who fights a guy named "devil" (Diavolo) with the power to create life and, at one point, raise the dead.
Is pretty sweet symbolism. I don't know why you included it as a negative.
you got missed the point so hard it's insane
the reason why he wants to usurp diavolo is to climb the social ladder, people talk about how righteous he is because he is a manipulator and led all his friends to their deaths just like dio. that is the point
>his losses don't have weight and he comes back
yeah that's about every single jojo
>gains new abilities
what does this even mean? what that he uses his ability in a new way each time? that is literally the point of stand battles
>overanalyzing a silly action romp to this degree
>Secret lovechild of one of the most important popular characters in the series
Couldn't care less about it
>Gains new abilities every chapter
He only "gains" creating lego pieces of organs
>Experiences no real conflict throughout the manga, doesn't really have anything against Diavolo other than wanting to usurp his position while Bruno has a genuine grievance against him with the drugs and his attempted murder of Trish.
Neither did Dio had anything against Jonathan aside from wanting his money, Giorno wants to kill Diavolo for money and for what he considers fair, emphasizing on both Jonathan and Dio
>Giorno's "loss" against each of those stands he fights never carries any weight, because he always comes out okay in the end. More often than not, him "losing " becomes part of some brilliant ploy later (White Album), is an intentional sacrifice on his part (Soft Machine) or he actually has a backup plan (Notorious B.I.G.) Even when Giorno loses both his arms, there are almost never any permanent consequences to his
"losses", so they just become another excuse for him to look tough.
What is Babyface? And the notorious big example is horrible, Trish literally develop his stand thanks to Giorno
>Multiple characters go on page-long rants about how righteous and inspiring he is. Those who do not like him either immediately take it back when they see what an omnichad he is (Bruno), or are immediately proven wrong and made to look stupid because of it (Abbacchio), who also ends up being the first of the gang to die.
Literary nobody says nothing to Abbacchio when he is insulting Giorno, and the non members of Bruno gang are people who are trying to kill him, I don't know why they should like Giorno in anyway
>Son of a guy named "God" (Dio) who fights a guy named "devil" (Diavolo) with the power to create life and, at one point, raise the dead
You are just describing and example of good writing, how the fuck is this bad?
all i see are positives
best jojo pretty easily
jojolion kino will be complete when he makes an appearance
>while Bruno has a genuine grievance against him with the drugs
>''I can't believE the MAFIA sells drugs! And to KIDS!!''
To be fair, he's just as retarded.
And Trish is just a characterless plot device so he can sperg out and betray the boss...which he was meaning to do from the beginning anyway, so it's not much of a character moment.
Also I have to add that Diavolo wanting to kill Trish makes no sense at all, everything completely falls apart right there.
He's revealed to be a completely paranoid control freak able to wipe all information about himself and you're telling me her existence slipped past him for 15 years?
And STILL then employ literal randos with stands to deliver her to his secret location when you can just order your super loyal higher ranking members who are ready to off themselves if need be to kill her no problem? OR use Doppio?? It's all nonsense written on the fly with no regard to any previous information established.
The villain has no connection to any of characters OR the drug trade, and it's never brought up when he actually appears. It's all bullshit and definitely not in the fun JoJo kind of way. Complete waste of potential.
I wish Giorno acted like that but thats headcanon. Giorno was a manipulator like Dio in his intro episodes and lost all of his personality later. Giorno became a moral paragon after his intro, the only edgy thing he did was kill the villains but everyone did that in part 5. Peak Giorno was killing Polpo, he just became a background character after that.
>gains new ability
I think that OP is taking about how many abilities GE has. "Life mastery" is a really vague power set and that leads to Golden Experience having a way to escape any situation. GE can do basically anything Araki wants because of its insane poweset and Giorno discovering new powers doesn't help. Its strange to think all the characterization and cool powers went to Bruno and not Giorno. Bruno is more of an MC than Giorno
Quickly, tell me Giorno's personality and goals right now
>"Personality is the only thing that matters in a character, they need to tell funny jokes so I can repeat it on the Internet, what are themes, dualism, parallels, symbolism and metaphors tho?"
(You)
>what are themes, dualism, parallels, symbolism and metaphors tho?
Please don't tell me you're implying part 5 does any of this well or even borderline acceptable.
You are deluding yourself if you think Giorno is super deep. He is disliked because he's basic, he's a normie tier shonen protag. Personality is 100% the most important thing about a character, if a character doesn't have a personality then he is just a device. Cope harder
>Wasted Potential: The Character
Yeah, dude is not like Giorno have parallels with Jonathan, Dio, Diavolo, the JoJo lineage, is the most important character in terms of themes and all the characters are affected by the central theme in any way and some powers that are related to the main theme haha"
>Personality is 100% the most important thing about a character
Unironically stoped reading there, you must be very delusional to thinks this
>if a character doesn't have a personality then he is just a device.
Then they'll start telling you that him being a device is deep.
You're alright, user. I wish more people who like jojo were like you.
It’s cause he’s the most generic shounen MC of all the JoJos. He doesn’t have the fun nature of Josuke or Joseph or the stone cold coolness of Jotaro, he’s just bland and outshined by every other character in part
>Yeah, dude is not like Giorno have parallels with Jonathan, Dio
Whoa. He's Dio's kid but also technically a Joestar?? What a great idea. I wish that was relevant in any way other than allowing him to say muda wryyy.
>Diavolo
W-Whoa. S-son(who wants to perpetuate a criminal empire) of GOD(who was a crazy megalomaniac vampire) beats the DEVIL(some anonymous hidden DID autist that somehow runs a criminal empire)??? Amazing parallels and Christian symbolism. I especially like the allusions to that part in the Bible where Jesus beats up the Devil while Apostles cheer in the back. And that bit where atleast 4 characters are simultaneously Jesus. Exquisite.
>the JoJo lineage
WHOA. A NEW JOJO? In THIS series? Shut...up.
>is the most important character in terms of themes
Ah yes, the theme of ''criminal empires are good as long as you don't sell drugs to kids somethingsomething it's fate.''
>and all the characters are affected by the central theme
''Yea, you see all that bullshit that transpired? Nothing made sense right? Don't worry, I can explain and tie it all neatly together. You ready? It was fate all along!''
>''some powers that are related to the main theme''
>villain uses fate-defying power that fate granted him and is punished for it.
>MC casually defies his fate with a last second power-up and wins everything.
no
Giornofags destroyed
Fucking shit character
>Whoa. He's Dio's kid but also technically a Joestar?? What a great idea. I wish that was relevant in any way other than allowing him to say muda wryyy.
Yeah, because being the first morally grey JoJo doesn't relate to the fact that he is a mix of Jonathan and Dio, since he is good but does morally grey things, or the fact that he can create life from the objects just like Dio can create undeads from corpses, or that he was bullied by kids just like Jonathan and abused by his father, just like Dio, or the fact that he always talk in a polite way just like Jonathan, but I guess that that things don't matter, right?
>W-Whoa. S-son(who wants to perpetuate a criminal empire) of GOD(who was a crazy megalomaniac vampire) beats the DEVIL(some anonymous hidden DID autist that somehow runs a criminal empire)??? Amazing parallels and Christian symbolism. I especially like the allusions to that part in the Bible where Jesus beats up the Devil while Apostles cheer in the back. And that bit where atleast 4 characters are simultaneously Jesus. Exquisite.
Oh yeah, because the fact that Giornos stand gives lives to things and heal allies and KC just kill you from the back, or that GER and KC have opposite powers, or how Giorno do things via effort and determination, unlike Diavolo who only cares about results and always takes shortcuts, or the fact that GER eyes are completely open, as a person that can see the truth while KC eyes are always filled with anger, as a person that takes shortcuts and doesn't have the determination to do something with effort, another group of useless things, right?
>WHOA. A NEW JOJO? In THIS series? Shut...up.
Yeah, because the others JoJo's killed his enemies intencional, were proactive, wanted to change the status QUO, gets a power up instead the villain and are morally grey, right?
>Ah yes, the theme of ''criminal empires are good as long as you don't sell drugs to kids somethingsomething it's fate
Of course the theme of an story is whatever the fuck I want, EVA? Dude angels bad lmao. Cowboy Bebop? Lmao, cool space. Berserk? Bro, have you seen the swords height? It's not like the theme of VA is that if you try hard enough all the time you can change fate (aka archive your goals)lmao
>''Yea, you see all that bullshit that transpired? Nothing made sense right? Don't worry, I can explain and tie it all neatly together. You ready? It was fate all along!
Lmao yeah, because abbachio giving up on his duty is not related to "taking shortcuts", or the fact that la squadra are takes the long path (aka putting efforts in archiving their goals) to the point they don't mine loosing limbs or dying if that makes them more closer to the boss, or the fact that Cioccolata also is determinated enough to study medicine instead of just killing people randomly but fails (against the gang of Bruno) just like la squadra and the boss, because his desires are selfish
>villain uses fate-defying power that fate granted him and is punished for it.
>MC casually defies his fate with a last second power-up and wins everything.
Lol friends sacrificing themselves to kill the boss? Only crybabies would be damaged by that, right (and of course neither does counts all the inocents that die along the way, right?)
My god, you can actually feel the butthurt.
He's coping hard, bro
>Present argument
>"No dude you are just coming xD"
Thanks for the (you)'s and, off course I accept you cannot keep with the conversation and now you must bring up buzzwords
You already lost the argument. See
Oh, how could I have forget that? Yeah, you are totally right, that's why I reply to the fucking air like here presented
>Giorno killing people for heroic reason makes him morally grey and channels his Dio and Jonathan
Bro...every single hero in part 5 does the same thing. With that logic, you could say Mista is related to Jonathan and Dio. If the part presented killing as wrong and made Giorno do it regardless to achieve his goals, then it would make Giorno seem like he is doing something morally grey. Vento Aureo presents killing as something that gangsters must do to survive so everyone does it, there is nothing morally wrong about in this part. What makes Giorno killing Melone different than Bruno killing Pesci. Giorno doesn't kill because he Jonathan and Dio's son, he does it because he is a gangster
>Giorno can create life, was bullied, abused, and is polite
Giorno's origin of being bullied and abused was really interesting as it showed him having parallels with Dio and Jonathan and his reason for liking the mafia so I will give you that. I wouldn't say Giorno is polite, he is emotionless. He isn't really polite or mean, he has no character. His life creating abilities are just something Araki made to give a wide variety of powers. GE's powerset is just there because Giorno needs to save the day in every fight and Golden Experience can bullshit something up for him everyfight.
>The whole thing about Giorno and Diavolo being opposites
This section here is really stretching it. GER and KC don't have similar powers or even opposite powers. GER's reset is just an OP version of GE's damage reflection, there is nothing linking GER's power to KC. Giorno also didn't get his stuff by effort, the requiem was literally fucking handed to him by someone else. Giorno was barely in the race for the Arrow and only did one thing but he got the requiem arrow because it literally handed to him.
>Jojo killed his enemies intentionally
They all did
>Was proactive
Jonathan and Josuke
>gets a power up
Jonathan, Jotaro, and Johnny
>is morally grey
Giorno isn't morally grey but Johnny is
Insane schizo rambling is not an argument. Almost everything you said is just fake stuff that you made up. I mean let's actually take a look at some of the stuff you wrote:
>or the fact that GER eyes are completely open, as a person that can see the truth while KC eyes are always filled with anger, as a person that takes shortcuts and doesn't have the determination to do something with effort
How is anyone supposed to take this seriously? Their eyes are exactly the same. Two circles. Both wide open. Both angry. You are spewing complete bullshit.
So which Youtuber did you steal this image from?