Does this cookie-cutter shounen ever get good?

I have seen 70 episodes of this show and they have been incredibly disappointing, but kept watching regardless, because there were some hints of a more grandiose story, but now I doubt it's going to happen.
I feel like I got more enjoyment from the first episode of Yuu Yuu Hakusho than this entire series... I don't know why I should force myself to watch this show when there are so many better shounen.

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>more grandiose story
it kinda has but the series moves at snail pace.

Unironically just go read Kinnikuman, it's rough around the edges but you'll have more fun in the long haul. Same "loser becomes a hero" arc and everything, but ten times more interesting.

It a what you see is wgat you get story, what the fuck were you expecting?

>Kinnikuman
Never heard of it. I suppose it follows, considering nobody in the west knows about Hokuto no Ken beyond the meme, despite it being a huge property in Japan.

Yeah pretty much. If you've at all seen "ultimate muscle" that's what most in English countries know it for though. (that being a sequel series that got dubbed.)
It's one of the earliest to fit the whole "shounen" category, and likewise started as a gag comedy, only to evolve into what people really like it for.

I mention this because, at least when reading it you'll have to stomach those earlier chapters in order to really enjoy when it gets great (scan quality doesn't help either, pic related, but I digress)

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Literally chuckled at the title of the thread. It literally has only gotten worse as it has progressed.

>Unironically just go read Kinnikuman
Don't follow this user's advice. Its dated. Horribly.

There is no grandiose story. If there was, it's literally just one evil vs good storyline with the new generation. It doesn't get any deeper than tthat for the main story.

Gimme one example that isn't mostly for aesthetics (warsman, stecasse king, etc.)

The writing is bad and REALLY formulaic throughout even once its stops being a gag manga its still formulaic. All the shounen tropes are here including asspulls galore.

I dropped MHA a while ago is MHA: Vigilantes any better?

If you watched 70 episodes of something and don''t see what's good about it then its less about the show and more about you.

Eh, only sort of, there's plenty that it does with those formulas that I think makes it entertaining. No less, it's pretty early, and shounen action is a genre built upon formula, with that in mind going into it, it's not as egregious as when MHA does it.

I'll give you the asspulls bit though, in specific the robin mask stuff was a bit stupid. regardless though my point wasn't that it's not radically different, but that it does what MHA does, just infinitely better

Does the guy ever explore the fact that the nomus are Midoriya's and Bokugou's elementary classmates who apparently got mutilated and brainwashed?

>it's not as egregious as when MHA does it.
You're joking right? I mean you can use the excuse that Kinikuman invented those same tropes but its still really corny and it doesn't help that both mangaka admitted that they were making shit up based on user input ence why it followed a MotW format based on reader drawings which is pretty cool but still kind of hacky.

No fuck off

No it doesnt
I continued watching it thinking it'll get good but it never did
I'd honestly rewatch the entirety of Naruto instead of watching this show

Okay hatefag

>You're joking right? I mean you can use the excuse that Kinikuman invented those same tropes but its still really corny

There's been far more corny or outright annoying uses of tropes in MHA, especially how characters like Bakugou are being handled.

>it doesn't help that both mangaka admitted that they were making shit up based on user input ence why it followed a MotW format based on reader drawings which is pretty cool but still kind of hacky.

It has a lot more charm to it, if you find that corny I guess it's understandable but I think it has a much more enjoyable and entertaining tone to it. So many memorable and interesting designs came from reader input to begin with, it would have been infinitely worse had they not done it, and the fact they made it work I'd argue makes it far less "hacky" than you're leading it on to be

>no argument

>There's been far more corny or outright annoying uses of tropes in MHA,
No there hasn't.

>especially how characters like Bakugou are being handled.
Now I know for a fact you're not saying this shit while defending Kinnikuman given how virtually every character even Masaru is treated poorly outside Ramenman and Robin Mask.

Meant to add as well, MotW stuff ended for the most part after the choujin olympics, even if the MotW stuff was a genuine point against it (which, again, it isn't, it's what makes seeing Suguru come so far later, so satisfying) it doesn't last all that long.

What're you talking about? plenty of them are treated just fine.

>plenty of them are treated just fine.
>characters will job constantly in order for Masaru to look good
>Masaru will just win because he's the MC
>Outside Terryman most of them don't even receive development

>I don't know why I should force myself to watch this show
You shouldnt? I dont know why people do this.
I dropped just a little after the tournament arc, because i wasnt enjoying so much anymore.

>characters will job constantly in order for Masaru to look good
>Masaru will just win because he's the MC
Eh, even the jobbers are still interesting/get plenty of decent coverage. The only one I can think of that didn't throughout is Geronimo. Also I take it you're talking about Suguru by "Masaru", I don't remember him being called that anywhere in the series before but it's been a little while.

>Outside Terryman most of them don't even receive development
You already mentioned Ramenman and Robin mask, but, aside from those and Suguru, Buffaloman, Warsman, and Soldier all come to mind in regards to getting interesting development or at least having interesting things happen with them.

>outside of Ramenman and Robin Mask
>Outside Terryman
Did you read past the second Chojin Olympics arc or what? Because you sound like a chump who didn't.

he probably didn't.

>Does this cookie-cutter shounen ever get good?
no

bump:)

did people here actually read Kinnikuman?