Anyone still think Tooru isn't the MV? I'm looking for some debate
JoJolion
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Austin Sullivan
Well he's definitely more in line with Valentine than Jobin is
I almost thought Araki was actually going to make a morally grey main villain for once but Jobin is ded on the floor
Nathaniel Adams
I just wanna know how his stand exactly works
Isaiah Foster
Tooru is just a generic MOTW villain. He's literally in the process of being defeated right now and the part isn't close to being over.
Jonathan Hughes
Destiny = Tooru wins
Flow = path of destiny
Pursuit = disruption of flow
Disruption = calamity
In thematic terms, basically, Gappy's got to "overcome" his "cursed destiny", but in the proper, courageous Joestar way that Pucci talked about. It's the same stuff expressed in JoJolion's first chapter. I think he'll do it with the power of faith via Jesus, and receive the power Valentine coveted through the corpse. It'll be Giorno--Requiem tier.
Liam Thomas
Also cool to mention, w/r/t Pucci, that Dio said it's important for ascending into heaven to be completely submitted to the will of God. Whether Dio and Pucci were right about whatever they heck they were on about isn't important: the key is that, in a way, they're talking about someone dedicated and loyal to 'flow': 'heaven favors those who flow, therefore heaven favors me, Pucci'; 'you cannot go against the flow without incurring calamity'; 'in order to fight your destiny (i.e. your curses), you have to pursue against destiny, and pursuit means death'. The Joestars always break their curses and win however because they are limitlessly determined and resolved, which is why Pucci said 'the Joestar bloodline must be overcome!'. So long as Gappy remains determined and in-faith, Tooru can't win.
Grayson Collins
Jaxson Lee
Alternatively fate wants the Joestar bloodline erased on a metaphysical level. A result of Pucci desires infusing into a new reality. This is the actual cause of all their Bizarre Adventures. Reality wants them gone, they're an error and Hamon, Stands, Technique is their anti virus
Lincoln Harris
Interesting! That 'fate wanting them gone on a metaphysical level' could be the 'curse' that Jojolion refers to.
Parker Hill
I think Damo is probably the main villain
Julian Ward
Grayson Davis
>the part isn't close to being over
Brayden Evans
man I hope he wins and it turns out he's in the right. I love that shit.
Nolan Reed
any confirmation on a part 9 or is Araki done with this shit? I mean he's been at it for 30 years
Isaiah Ward
I don't see why we would get any confirmation until after 8 ends
Carson Garcia
there is probably gonna be a part 9. unless araki fucking dies he will continue to draw jojo for all eternity
Henry Baker
Brayden Campbell
I cannot see MERGE in this fromula
Connor Rogers
if tooru is actually the real villain this is worse writing than pt 3
Camden Sanchez
So was this interview done before or during part 8?
Gabriel Barnes
The beginning of SBR
Alexander Wright
>16 year old quote
I'll take it with a grain of salt
Leo Campbell
I don't know what he means by "this isn't a saga" when part 8 is a continuation of SBR
Lucas Lewis
Based, but the guy who posted it also said picrelated.
Wonder if anything's changed.
Aaron Clark
To be fair he hinted at part 9 again last year at Lucca
Probably changed his mind
Christian Bailey
Yeah, I think he'll do a part 9. But after that the story will need to wrap up, we already have 3 "trilogies"
Dominic Diaz
Thanks for referring to the Lucca interview, that was a fun read. I'd love a Part 9 in Italy.
Luke Rivera
>Part 9 in Lucca
Nolan Turner
poetry
Lincoln Diaz
Hudson Wood
miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe