Alright Zig Forums, I'm about to educate you all on why Dragon Ball as a franchise was always shit: >unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series >all the characters are terrible people especially the main character >revealing aliens in a previously mystical setting is fucking retarded >all fights are 20 minutes of staring, yelling or talking, 3 minutes of flashy explosions and only a few seconds of actual fights >fights boil down to power levels and thus remove all stragety from fights making them boring >even then power levels are retarded (Freeza is the strongest in the universe, then it's a pair of robots, then it's a pink bubblegum, then it's a furry) >plot sounds like something from a terrible fanfiction (Android arc is a rip-off of Terminator, Zamasu arc has an evil Goku) >nonsensical pairings (Vegeta/Bulma, Krillin/18, Trunks/Mai) >Goku is a bad protagonist, is obsessed with fighting to the point of putting his friends, family and the entire universe in danger, is an irresponsible adult, hasn't changed much since the early series, leaves his friends and loved ones to train a random curry nigger who is the reincarnation of Buu >how the Dragon Balls work are inconsistent >villians are too easily redeemed and forgiven >Super Saiyan and Fusion kills all tension in fights >the power scaling went full retard, it is now capeshit level
TL;DR: Dragon Ball was shit, is currently shit in its new iterations, and will forever be shit. There's a weird resurgence of faggots who seem to think that just because Dragon Ball Super and its fanbase are cancer, that the original series was some veritable masterpiece. Don't delude yourselves. Your series has always been a shining paragon of what not to do if you want to make an anime that only entertains twelve-year-olds and under (or autists who refuses to grow up).
Congrats on saying that a well known bad show was bad. Do you want a metal?
Cameron James
>unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series Subjective >all the characters are terrible people especially the main character Subjective >revealing aliens in a previously mystical setting is fucking retarded Subjective >all fights are 20 minutes of staring, yelling or talking, 3 minutes of flashy explosions and only a few seconds of actual fights Based retard >fights boil down to power levels and thus remove all stragety from fights making them boring Let's ignore how you have to counter techniques like time skip >even then power levels are retarded (Freeza is the strongest in the universe, then it's a pair of robots, then it's a pink bubblegum, then it's a furry) This is how power escalation works >plot sounds like something from a terrible fanfiction (Android arc is a rip-off of Terminator, Zamasu arc has an evil Goku) Android arc barely even had anything to do with terminator. Dr gero is the only thing like terminator. Goku black is actually a character. >nonsensical pairings (Vegeta/Bulma, Krillin/18, Trunks/Mai) >Goku is a bad protagonist, is obsessed with fighting to the point of putting his friends, family and the entire universe in danger, is an irresponsible adult, hasn't changed much since the early series, leaves his friends and loved ones to train a random curry nigger who is the reincarnation of Buu He's not supposed to be jesus who does no wrong. He can be selfish, stupid, and naive to a fault. But that's the point. >how the Dragon Balls work are inconsistent Except they arent >villians are too easily redeemed and forgiven That's the point of goku. He's a flat character who is supposed to change the world around him >Super Saiyan and Fusion kills all tension in fights Debatable. >the power scaling went full retard, it is now capeshit level It's actually getting back to a sense of normalcy Shut the fuck up you literal smooth brain
Jonathan Butler
Fuck off you worthless shounenigger Stop making these fanbase war threads jesus fucking christ
Juan Long
PROVIDE REASONS WHEN YOU MAKE A CLAIM OTHERWISE YOU LOOK STUPID
Lincoln Carter
>Let's ignore how you have to counter techniques like time skip >"Ahhh shit, how am I gonna counter Hit's time skip ability?" >"I kbow! I'll just power up a bit more and hulk out on that motherfucker!! >This is how power escalation works Explain how a backward planet scientist managed to turn to ordinary humans into the most powerful weapons in the universe, even stronger than an intergalactic emperor who can bust a planet with his pinky. Explain Android 16, who is all mechanical, is even stronger than them. You can't. Because there is no reason. Characters are as strong as the plot need them at that point. >Android arc barely even had anything to do with terminator. Dr gero is the only thing like terminator. Goku black is actually a character. >Robots traveling from the future (Cell), the kid of the present (Gohan) being the future leader agains robots >Trunks being Kyle Reese and Android 16 is basically Arnold playing the role of a t800 You have to be willfully ignorant if you don't think the Android arc is just a carbon copy of Terminator. >Goku black is actually a character What was his character that made him stand out? He's basically just Turles, who too was designed to be an evil Goku >Except they arent Elaborate >Debatable Elaborate
Elijah Myers
A metal bat to bash your head.
Then again, Toriyama for all of this, did do a good deed: Encourage Kubo to keep doing the superior series of all shounens ever forevermore eternitylong.
Noah Ward
Nice blog. Where do I subscribe?
Carter Scott
>unfunny sexual harassment gags Stopped reading right there
Ian Martin
Fuck off back to tumblr nigger
Chase Robinson
But user, these are all the reasons the franchise is good.
>unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series Humor is subjective. >all fights are 20 minutes of staring, yelling or talking, 3 minutes of flashy explosions and only a few seconds of actual fights Have you tried not watching anime? Fights are very fast-paced. I don't even like Dragon Ball that much, but go fuck yourself. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Leo Hill
Hey slave, do your job.
Easton Lee
>revealing aliens in a previously mystical setting is fucking retarded There are millions of worlds in Hinduism, retard. There isn't just a single planet. Holy shit. Are you dumb, stupid or dumb?
>>the power scaling went full retard, it is now capeshit level Capeshits can't destroy the universe with their punches
>Goku is a bad protagonist, is obsessed with fighting to the point of putting his friends, family and the entire universe in danger He saved the multiverse, because Zeno was going to blow it up anyway
>>fights boil down to power levels and thus remove all stragety from fights making them boring Retard. Super was intended to show us that technique > power. It started with the Godmode, which was superior to SS faggotry, but the Saiyans couldn't cope so they went Blue. UI, Spirit fission, etc are all the opposite of powerlevel faggotry and every time they resort to powerlevel faggotry people like Merus, Whis etc all tell the viewers and the others how retarded that is.
>even then power levels are retarded (Freeza is the strongest in the universe) The story gives reason for all of it. Don't bitch about the story when you're clearly speed reading or retarded.
>all the characters are terrible people especially the main character >nonsensical pairings (Vegeta/Bulma, Krillin/18, Trunks/Mai) >Wai didn't mai waifu win the bowl? Cope, faggot. You don't seem to know shit about how relationships come to fruition, you permavirgin.
Now KNEEL, little mouse.
Owen Watson
>unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series That was when Dragon Ball was at it's best though.
>unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series Feminist spotted.
Jonathan Davis
>unfunny sexual harassment gags in the early series Almost stopped reading right here, but I'm curious how much worse it gets. >all the characters are terrible people But that's based. >revealing aliens in a previously mystical setting is fucking retarded Dragon Ball's setting never made sense, OP. It never had rules. >complaining about fights Already knew that. >stragety Yes. >power levels are retarded Yes. >plot is fanfic tier Yes, but that's why you liked it. >nonsensical pairings Suck my dick. >Goku is a bad protagonist Yes. >Dragon Balls Yeah, alright I'll give you that one, I can't just chad yes meme to that, nobody likes it. >villains are too easily redeemed lol >Super Saiyan and Fusion kills tension in fights Yes, but you're not watching Dragon Ball Z for tension. >power scaling went full retard The power scaling has always been full retard.
TL;DR: On the list of things that everybody knew already, Dragon Ball is brainless fun, Toriyama never knew what the fuck he was doing, Monica Rial is a cow, and OP is a faggot.
Jacob Morris
No rebuttal, and resorting to deflection ad nauseam. Goes to show Dragon Ball fans are all retarded 14 year old autists that haven't and never will develop the ability to think critically Hey autist, this is Zig Forums, and unlike 2chan, many foreigners use this site. No one gives a fuck about having perfect flow or grammar in sentences, except egocentric fucks who won't get laid, that do everything to get a leg up on internet strangers, like you
Jaxson Ross
based and truefan pilled
Jason Brown
>Explain how a backward planet scientist managed to turn to ordinary humans into the most powerful weapons in the universe EZ: whoever the new bad guys turn out to be theyre stronger than the last bad guys and they were created via the power of Cartoon Science.
its called being based
Lucas Reyes
Jiraiya >>>>> Roshi
Jiraiya is a genuinely good character and did the old pervy mentor better trope better than a one-gimmick character like Roshi without being a creep
>There are millions of worlds in Hinduism, retard. And there is nothing called extra-terrestials or aliens in any of the Hindu texts or in the 14 worlds (Loka) >Capeshits can't destroy the universe with their punches Superman already did that shit years before Dragon Ball ever did >He saved the multiverse, because Zeno was going to blow it up anyway Not all universes were going to be wiped out. And I'm talking about the time Goku actively stopped his children from saving him, themselves and others (i.e. not bringing Gohan back to finish off Buu) in favor of "I wanna fight this guy", even though that can very easily get everyone killed. >Super was intended to show us that technique > power. Wow, Goku sure showed that technique exceeds power by having Goku increase his power level to counter Hit's time skip! >The story gives reason for all of it. Don't bitch about the story when you're clearly speed reading or retarded. Not an argument. Now Android 16 who was 100% man-made mechanical, and he was leagues above Android 17 and 18 who were stronger than an intergalactic emperor who can destroy planets with his pinky? >Cope, faggot. You don't seem to know shit about how relationships come to fruition, you permavirgin. I don't give a fuck about those fugly Dragon Ball bitches and don't project your insecurities and inadequacies that you will never get laid onto me, Zig Forumsirgin. I care about consistency, and even Naruto put more effort into its couples, as half-assed as it were. Gohan and Videl was the only couple Toriyama put an effort developing.
No one cares about your grammar policing on Zig Forums, autist. Address arguments, stop trying to be smug to literal whos on the internet when you're getting absolutely spanked. You're a loser.
