Power system is a shot for shot rip off of HxH

>Power system is a shot for shot rip off of HxH
>Is now considered a tactical and "intelligent" series

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Jump lost semblance of originality a while ago.

>HxH is so good, why can't other shounen be like it?
>other shounen try and be like it
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lol another hunterkek thats mad based basedu kaisen is better than it

How is it better?

Its nothing like hxh except for the same power system. It doesnt have hxh's superb characters and villains.

Hunter only got good/great after 80 or 90 chapter and then after chimera went to shit.
Jujutsu got great after 14 chapter and then the quality is irregular.

Typical low attention span zoomer. Hxh is more than shitty fight after fight.

It actually releases chapters.

>Power system is a shot for shot rip off of HxH
There was nothing original about Nen in the first place and it's barely a system anyway.
All it has is very basic Qi shit you see in every Asian fantasy martial art story in existence and then a power classification chart that encompasses basically every power you can find through powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Random

>B-but hiatus!

The restriction system is a shot for shot rip off of nen. Saying nen is just ki shows you are just a speedreader.

>series proves to be too intelligent for shonenspics
>shonenspics continue to prove that the series is too intelligent for them

Whats so intelligent about it? The author's ability blatantly rip off other series?

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>the restriction system
Maybe if it was actually commonly used aspect of the system rather than almost exclusively existing to facilitate asspulls.

Nothing about Nen as a system exists to facilitate creative fights or make the author work around the restrictions of his own rules for creative applications of powers. Everything about Nen as a system, including the Restriction aspect, exists exclusively for the mangaka to easily put inabsolutely any bullshit superpower he wants with zero internal consistency.

Nen is as much a Power System as Quirks or the X gene or whatever. It has no clear rules as a whole besides what the author prescribes to individual characters as convenient for the story and requires zero creative thought to come up with a new power or fighting style on the spot without repeating yourself.

Because it's not a system, just a loose power classification chart.

JJK has a similar issue, but it doesn't have armies of pretentious kiddies pretending otherwise.

>Its nothing like hxh except for the same power system.
Except despite having a sort of restriction/limitation system similar to HxH, there's not much else similar outside of a couple fringe abilities. JJK to it's credit uses similar concepts but ultimately has it's own identity and nuances as a series and Curse Power stands on it's own. There's nothing wrong with taking inspiration when you do it well and now there are two good series with technical and interesting power systems. On top of both having a great cast of characters.

Everybody wins.

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Fuck off power system level.

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First of all, whats your point here? None of this changed that jujutsu blatantly rips off and plagiarizes nen. But...

>Maybe if it was actually commonly used aspect of the system rather than almost exclusively existing to facilitate asspulls
Its used all the time. Speedreaders deserve the rope. Pretty much every character has some sort of rules or restrictions on their ability.

>Because it's not a system, just a loose power classification chart.
Yes thats what makes it a system. By that logic theres no such thing as a power system unless everyone uses the exact same power.

And there are many rules that all nen users have to abide by which make it a system. But a retarded speedreader wouldnt know them.

>Megumi's ability allows him to invoke creatures by creating shadows with their shapes
oh, that seems like a cool conce-
>nvm lol, he'll just invoke wathever he needs at the moment and the shadow aspect is looked over

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it's annoying the thread this series get it hxh shitpost trolling. i was reading hxh before you were born and it's not anything like it.

you should try reading other series besides naruto and that hero manga. not everything that isn't like dragonball or naruto is similar to hxh

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Why do burgers think uninfluenced originality exists? Starting to see why everyone laughs at them.

>jjk 116 chp
>hxh 390 chp, novels, two anime, ovas, theater drama, cd dramas, and more
jjk is quite good for where it's at whether it's fun characters, art, or interesting plot. not on the level of hxh but still great.

Except he still summons creatures from shadows, his Shikigami number hasn't diverted from the 10 we still hadn't seen all of. And he's been evolving his ability as a minor plot point to include storing objects in shadows and also gaining his domain which is a buff to his chimeras and overcomes a weakness in his overall style where Shikigami can be permanently destroyed.

Megumi is just getting better

>None of this changed that jujutsu blatantly rips off and plagiarizes nen. But...
It changes because there's nothing to plagiarize. Chi bullshit and superpowers having restrictions are both basic as fuck.

>Its used all the time.
Not in any notable way beyond just constructing the power in the first place. In which case

>Pretty much every character has some sort of rules or restrictions on their ability.
So does literally every superpowered character in the history of fiction aside from shit like Demonbane/The Axiom/TOAA which are just meant to be unbeatable.
There's nothing special about Nen Restrictions as a concept when every power is unique anyway. It'd only have any value if the setting had a limited set of powers and Restrictions were how powers developed in unique ways.

>Yes thats what makes it a system. By that logic theres no such thing as a power system unless everyone uses the exact same power.
No, you just have no idea what an actual power system is. A power system is defined by its limitations, not its possibilities. The creativity and mastery of the characters shouldn't come from ridiculously convoluted their powers are, but from how they take from a limited set of generic abilities and mold them into a unique fighting style through combination, evolution or creative application while still being held to certain unbreakable rules that force the writer to be creative.

All Nen has is a dozen crutches that let the mangaka make any power he wants with zero concern about breaking any rules because Nen has none that matter.

The toads are very clearly coming from his shadow. It's just that he didn't do the hand sign.

>jjk 116 chp
>hxh 390 chp, novels, two anime, ovas, theater drama, cd dramas, and more
What is this supposed to prove other than one series being 2 years old and another 22 years old?

hxh got its best developer later in the story not at the beginning. what the fuck is the point of comparing character development to something that has had 2 decades to do it?

the father toji fushiguro was an awesome character. there's other interesting characters too but they don't have many chapters compared hxh 390+ extra material

>All Nen has is a dozen crutches that let the mangaka make any power he wants with zero concern about breaking any rules because Nen has none that matter.
Different user but this is where I'd disagree. Nen has certain defined upper limits with respect to certain categories the hatsu categories (Enhancement, Manipulation, Conjuration, emissions, transmutation, and yes even Specialization). And how some of the basic and advanced principles work and interact like Gyo, Ren, En, Zetsu, and In. While it's not as cleanly codified as other magic systems you might mention, it's not so loose that is has no basis or constraints. And Togashi is good at also making abilities the centerpiece of an arc and making the rules surrounding them understandable to the reader both to create tension and to give that ability limitations that can be exploited by characters. Like Genthru's Countdown, Pitou's En, Knuckle's Hakoware, the Kakin royal family urn ritual, and even this bloke that recently ripped off Diavolo.

>Not in any notable way beyond just constructing the power in the first place. In which cas
Yep. Thats its meant to be used.

>So does literally every superpowered character in the history of fiction aside from shit like Demonbane/The Axiom/TOAA which are just meant to be unbeatable.
Yea exactly. Thats the whole point of nen is to make it a mechanic in the power system itself. How does one not realize this.

> No, you just have no idea what an actual power system is. A power system is defined by its limitations, not its possibilities. The creativity and mastery of the characters shouldn't come from ridiculously convoluted their powers are, but from how they take from a limited set of generic abilities and mold them into a unique fighting style through combination, evolution or creative application while still being held to certain unbreakable rules that force the writer to be creative.

And nen does all of that. None of the abilities are convoluted. (except for tserridnech i guess). They are all very simple and creative and characters use them in creative ways.

>All Nen has is a dozen crutches that let the mangaka make any power he wants with zero concern about breaking any rules because Nen has none that matter.

Nen has many universal rules. The same way bending has universal rules that apply to all elements or allomancy has universal rules that apply to all the different elements and alloys.

I mean, HxH has one of the best power systems.
What are you tying to say here?