Can Miyazaki save anime?
Can Miyazaki save anime?
Cameron Hill
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Joshua Rivera
Perhaps he could have, but he didn't. In the end Ghibli was just kept afloat by his movies and once he's gone will collapse as Goro ruins it. I recall in an interview he said he trained successors but they all got 'destroyed', and another director said he could only make his movie after he left Ghibli because they were stifling his vision. However they functioned at Ghibli it was not in a way that ended up influencing the industry, despite their popularity.
His analysis of the problems with anime is spot on. Otaku make anime based on other anime, and they become more and more deformed, and only appeal to otaku, as a result anime becomes detached and won't bring in new viewers. In the anime and manga community you become used to it, but if you take a step back and imagine a normie looking at some of the stuff, they'd just be confused and weirded out by the bizarre tropes and fetishism. In a way the way characters are designed, becoming more and more moe blob like, shows this.
Jonathan Morgan
OP that's Colonel Sanders.
Benjamin Green
no
Landon Edwards
You can say anime was a mistake, but I don't see this as a negative thing
>if you take a step back and imagine a normie looking at some of the stuff
But this is a actually a good thing for obvious reasons
Daniel Edwards
Imagine being an animator at Studio Ghibli working late nights giving life to scribbles some old drunk asshole hands you. Every time he passes his scribbles to you he criticizes your work before going into a diatribe about the environment and world war 2 japan. Every once in a while he hands you what appears to be naked children, and instead of the usual drunk scolding he just says "do this now" before standing silently behind you. for the next hour while you animate a few frames of this scene, you start to hear repetative movements and heavy breathing behind you. You also hear the sounds of all the other staff in the room quickly but quietly evacuating. You have been here before and know the consequences of turning around to see what the hell is happening. You persevere and continue drawing masterfully polished frames of bare kiddies hoping the sounds go away soon and the demon retreats back to his smelly corner of the room. When he finally leaves, you shut down your station, leave the office and grab a couple of sakes from the bar across the street before beginning your long commute home. You get home and your wife is already asleep. You get in bed and she wakes and asks how your day was. The reality you did well to block out suddenly floods back and you proceed to beat and rape your wife.
Jace Adams
You and Miyazaki are right, we should force everything to pander to tasteless retard normalfags. So wise!
Oliver Sanchez
>drove his successor so hard he fucking died from overwork
Miyazaki isn't saving anything.
Jacob Parker
Is Miyazaki a pedo?
Aaron Hall
Will he complete the movie before he dies? He's 90 already
Charles Foster
I just found out recently that Goro Miyazaki apparently liked Urusei Yatsura 2 more than Nausicaa on release and hung out with Mamoru Oshii. What a little bastard, no wonder Miyazaki is always annoyed.
Noah Morris
How can one man be so based?
Isaiah Sanders
>Founder of Studio Ghibli and director of many of Japan’s best known animated films, including Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. Miyazaki’s protagonists are usually young girls. Miyazaki reportedly once shouted “What’s wrong with falling in love with a 12-year-old girl? “(「一二歳の女の子と恋愛してどこが悪い」) at fellow director Mamoru Oshii when drunk
You tell me
Lucas Nelson
In his defense, there's literally nothing wrong with falling in love with a 12 year old girl
Brandon Ramirez
>But this is a actually a good thing for obvious reasons
Not for the industry, which is user's point.
Angel Reyes
If saving the industry is letting westerners pozzing anime, I don't know what to tell you
Mason Flores
Miyazaki... what are you doing with that little girl?
William Sullivan
Or maybe we could actually have anime that appeals to more people because its creative and original instead of recycled trash.
Alexander Adams
user said normies, not Westerners. Despite what Zig Forums might have led you to believe, most Japs are not in fact hardcore otaku. If you drive away the normies you're driving away new Jap viewers/readers, let alone Westerners. Sales have to come from somewhere, and an increasingly insular audience is a death spiral.
Elijah Wright
Would Miyazaki becomes this much of a big deal if he never get a pity Oscar ?
Cameron Parker
This was for the American release of Ponyo. The little girl is the voice actress.
Jacob Lewis
You've got it backwards: the Oscar is a meaningless token to him. Ghibli already had the top-grossing movie (animated or otherwise) in Japan for most years in the 90s. It's hard to overstate how successful and dominant Ghibli is in the industry. By the time he got the Oscar he was already massively successful and practically worshipped.
John Myers
YOU JUST KNOW
Sebastian Martinez
I think you're missing the point. It's not that, instead of pandering to otaku you should pander to mainstream audiences, it's that you shouldn't be pandering at all. He was always lamenting the studio environment and advocating for animators to try and sieze more creative freedom.
Jackson Hill
>However they functioned at Ghibli it was not in a way that ended up influencing the industry, despite their popularity.
What does this even mean, though? In Japan Ghibli is practically synonymous with "animated movie". Newer successes like Makoto Shinkai are discussed in relation to Miyazaki.
Having come to so define and dominate the industry, how can it be said that he (and Ghibli) didn't influence it?
Owen Murphy
Why is a picture of an older man standing next to a young girl immediately make you think he's a sick pedo? Same phenomenon when you post a picture of a black man and white woman here. Too many people immediately think "cuck" and "Blacked."
Connor Bailey
People have been saying anime is dead since I have memory
The success of Your Name is a clear indicator that original normie friendly anime is still viable
Michael Gomez
>My name is Hayao Miyazaki, and I hate every single one of you
Owen Campbell
>imagine a normie looking at some of the stuff, they'd just be confused and weirded out by the bizarre tropes and fetishism
Why is that a bad thing? "Anime isn't like literally every other medium which tries to imitate or literally is Hollywood!"
I don't like many tropes in anime, but I like anime as a medium even if I think some of the trite, rehashing garbage is, well, garbage. I don't need approval from normalfags or western media to enjoy my medium, that's a mistake video game fans made and continue to make, desperately wanting their medium to be considered "real art" whatever the fuck that means and to be "taken seriously".
That shit is fucking stupid. Anime is anime. The good with the bad.
Dylan Morris
>Not for the industry, which is user's point.
The industry is doing fine though? Otaku have been singlehandedly keeping it afloat for the past 40 years, and that's how it should be ideally.
Benjamin Moore
Shut up simp
Nathaniel Cox
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Asher Wright
Except otakus die user, they aren’t exactly fit as a fiddle and most will die earlier deaths. Once they’re gone and no normies have been inducted into the culture, then it just crashes and burn
Jaxon Flores
Funny how the colonel is a god in Japan