>Still the best anime villain ever created
Light was the villain.
He's not the villain, Light is. L is the antagonist.
Maybe if you are a brainlet that thinks material courts of law define morality than the philosophical ethics systems.
>L
>villain
OP, I...
But that thought was the basis for most of Light's actions.
light is still villain in most ethics systems. he killed shitloads of innocent people, some because they got in his way, others because it would help further his goals. hell, he tried to kill the fake L just because he annoyed him.
Whats wrong with that? The problem with L's ethical system is that its entirely dependent on court like he is some sort of Jewish Rabbi.
That means if a court wanted to sentence some random girl to death based on a law that makes no rational sense, then that is justice.
L completely ignores that court systems are compromised of humans and thus always corruptible.
are you saying light wasn't corrupt?
Utilitarianism and subjectivism (which is probably what Light follows) definitely question Light being the "villain".
He was the antagonist not the villain.
>Whats wrong with that?
He trusted those corrupt courts' decisions for his death penalties.
He never aimed for a loftier ethical ground than them. He just cut through the red tape and murdered whom they would not give the death penalty.
So, besides those that may have had good reasons to commit crimes (like you are arguing Light does), he also got innocent people because he did not care to do any research himself.
L is absolutely ammoral. He does not give a shit. He tries not to do harm and he doesn't murder people, and this fact alone makes him not a villain, differently from Light.
No but it can be said that while Light made some ethical mistakes he was still achieving an overarching goal that was for the greater good.
It can be argued that systems currently in place (whether it be communism/capitalism, laws, etc) are immoral because the timeline of agony and death amounting over periods of time are much greater than a possible proposed system that can guarantee less suffering over the long run.
So Light's corrupted actions are still the less immoral route.
one could argue a society where anyone who commits minor crimes or slightly annoys an invisible egomaniacal teen with a god complex dies instantly is not one where happiness is maximized.
>some ethical mistakes
Every time he wrote down a name, which generally happened dozens of times per day.
Making ethical mistakes while playing with human lives is kind of what makes you a villain.
>hurr i, a human, get to play God cause ifound a stupid book hurrr
ok retard
This kind of view is kind of antithetical to the quote
>"Evil reigns when good men do nothing"
So while some would disagree, I think its pretty obvious that apathy and ammoralism is evil.
You could probably make that argument if Light was eternal while holding the death note but his life was still on a clock and actually cut in half.
He could never do enough damage in time that would be worse than the current system he was living in.
I guess if you are religious yeah. That is really the only viewpoint where human lives can be viewed as precious since dooming someone to an eternal damnation in a temporary world can be without a doubt seen as extremely immoral.
Making patients watch Death Note and see if they side with Light or L is definitely a full proof psychopath test, if you believe Light was the good guy you should be put on a watch list
Why the fuck are people these days so anti-TheEndsJustifyTheMeans
Am I live in crazy world? I am actually dumbfounded that people think Light is the villain.
I am sure plenty of psychopath ward patients would either not care about either of them or choose L. Unfortunately there is a lot of people who like Light just based on edgelord reasons.
>I am actually dumbfounded that people think Light is the villain.
Light, the guy who laughs in delight as he kills innocent people.
Personally you're what dumbfounds me.
>I think its pretty obvious that apathy and ammoralism is evil.
No, that is not logical. In fact it disagrees with your quote. It "good men". "Good men" are not evil.
Apathy gives the advantage to whoever acts. Usually, if you do not make your voice heard, the people who disagree with you have a greater majority than if you do make your voice heard. That is what this quote is talking about.
That does not mean that you agree with what you disagree with. It means, that you failed to lend your strength to your position. If you are ammoral, that doesn't matter. That's why the quote is speaking of "good" men, not of "people who do not care".
>I guess if you are religious yeah. That is really the only viewpoint where human lives can be viewed as precious
If you are going to be as dishonest as this, I have nothing else to say.
>only religious people can think human life is precious
Come the fuck on, retard.
Because utilitarianism is fucking stupid, and Kant finished ethical philosophy for all time.
>If you think I'm L then you're gay
How do you respond to this bros?
>Cope.
L was Kira
>the guy who's willing to sacrifice his own father to get his hands on the WMD back
>not the villain
>defending violent criminals
>innocent
they deserved to die
including the fbi agents who spent their whole lives ridding the world of violent criminals? or that agent's wife who just wanted to know why her husband died?
This
Not this
>villain