To understand Jiren's full power, one must first understand the unbelievable gap between his Limit Break and his ordinary self.
When Jiren is introduced, he makes quick work of SSBKK, a U7 Spirit Bomb, among other things. At this point Whis already says Jiren surpasses the level of the GoD. I need to point out here that you CANNOT be about the level of a GoD if there are GoD's stronger than you. The whole statement wouldn't make sense. So Jiren is stronger than EVERY GoD, even Beerus. But this was implied already when Belmod, who was called stronger than Beerus, was stated weaker than Jiren. We also see Jiren shrug off SSBKK Goku and SSBE Vegeta in a 2v1, literally being on the advantage the whole time. SSBE Vegeta was capable of beating GoD Toppo, who is stated to be "no different from a regular GoD". Even if you want to argue that he's the weakest of the GoDs, he is still definitely on their level. Since Vegeta beat him, that means both Goku and Vegeta are on that level. So Jiren was winning against BOTH of these at the same time. He was effectively fending off two Gods of Destruction simultaneously. Now, here's the thing. This whole time Jiren is holding back his full power. Him being above the GoD level, beating GoD-level opponents, all of this happened while his ki was suppressed. Once he does unleash his full power everything changes. His opponents (GoD level) are literal ants to him. He FACETANKS their beam attacks and almost KO's all of them merely by flaring his aura. Not even an "Owari Da" ki attack, just bursting his AURA is enough to wreck GoD level opponents.
This incomprehensibly strong Jiren, who was so vastly stronger than GODS OF DESTRUCTION LEVEL FIGHTERS that he could FACETANK their strongest attacks and KO them by flexing his ki - THIS Jiren - then got FODDERIZED by Ultra Instinct Goku. Absolutely fodderized. A full power CHARGED Ki attack from him was simply crushed in Goku's hand. He gets destroyed by a billion punches in an instant. THAT is how much stronger UI is than THIS Jiren, to whom GoDs are but ants.
But then of course, Jiren HIMSELF has a Limit Break that puts him on an even footing with UI. He made up that INSANE gap in power and reached the same level. Everything I talked about in regards to Jiren and his incredible power is completely DWARFED by this Limit-breaking Jiren that is now equal, if not outright superior, to UI. At this point we have two beings that have left the "GoD level" so far behind it's not even the same dimension anymore.
To put it plainly: UI = LB Jiren >>> FP Jiren >> Jiren > 2x GoD fighters / Beerus
How can one refute this? Say I'm in allegiance with say, Jobly or the Jobber fusions. How do I cope with all the information you just gave me? My whole world of beliefs in in jeopardy after reading that.
Alexander Allen
there are no dogly fans left. they all hopped onto the next bandwagon
Their only choice was to become Toyopacos and declare his legendary feats to be "non-canon" and pretend like the cucknga connects to the movie, despite this not being the case according to the creators.
Hunter Davis
You just described the mentally ill Jobrentards. You're probably one projecting right now.
Gavin Reyes
FOAZ
Jackson Russell
>no u
Thomas Edwards
>fagrentards acting up again Looks like it's time once again for the CuteCHADS to assert our dominion
>Cutegang and Chadforce are the same person I..I fucking believe in this. Also, the Jirenfags literally came from the Chadforce >Dogposting fetish It's true too
I say anything, no matter how retarded, for attention. Someone the other day tried saying Goku has black hair and I made sure to tell that little ESL taco that no, Goku actually has purple hair. I won that debate by being as retarded as possible until he eventually gave up. I then samefagged and pretended to be him having a mental breakdown for 10 more posts before I got bored and decided to spam my Toyopacotacohacko pamphlets.
I like Jiren.
Jordan Long
B-B-BASED TOEICHADRENSCHOLAR
Leo Richardson
The good old reason Toyopacos exist in the first place. To FLEE from anime Jiren's OVERWHELMING power.
Too bad he is depicted almost as powerful in the manga. Where he almost one shots 17 AND Frieza out of bounds with a measly slap. Not to mention in there, he quite literally ONE SHOTS UI Goku, where as in the anime he brought him down twice before the plot armor catch up to him.
This is the samefag shitposting. Do you see? This is the coping mechanism. Do you see? This is the CuteCHAD improving the thread. Do you see? This is the (You) that you've given me. Do you see? This is the work that I'm doing. DO YOU SEE? >OH GOD, HE'S RIGHT! You tremble before us as an ant trembles before the Dragon. But fear is not what you owe us user. You Owe Us Awe
Not to mention, Anti-Jiren bitches would literally rather post in a fucking moeshitting thread than being in a Chadren thread. Otherwise it would be just the waifubitch spamming to itself.
William Price
Toytracopedrobros.. how do we stop his DOMINANT INFLUENCE? We lose every single time we try to debate him...
Wyatt Allen
Has been 24 years I guess. I always loved it, even hating Super. Still it somehow is part of my life. That's why I can't let it go and that I feel mad at how Dragon Ball is treated today.
Jacob Gray
HOLY BASED
Cameron Morris
>I say anything, no matter how retarded, for attention. Someone the other day tried saying Goku has black hair and I made sure to tell that little ESL taco that no, Goku actually has purple hair. I won that debate by being as retarded as possible until he eventually gave up. I then samefagged and pretended to be him having a mental breakdown for 10 more posts before I got bored and decided to spam my Toyopacotacohacko pamphlets.
>I say anything, no matter how retarded, for attention Do you mean like denying SSBKK and SSBE's existence? Or rather say God Ki doesn't exist at all? Or maybe that Goku and Broly have time powers? Or that SSG and SS3 are directly linked? Or perhaps that UI is weaker than SSB? Or perchance that the movie follows the manga? As preposterous as all of that sounds, all of it has been uttered more than once in my threads.
Kayden Edwards
You win at life... I kneel
Christian Howard
EXIT HORSEREN THE HOPELESS SHITREN THE STUPID PONYREN THE PATHETIC WEAKREN THE WORTHLESS TURDREN THE TACO MAGGOTREN THE MEXICAN ASSREN THE ARAB COPEREN THE CAMELFUCKER EXIT SHITRENTARDS
