Why can't the current anime feel as aesthetic as the ones from the 80s to early 00s? The aspect ratio, hand drawn and colored frames and backgrounds, a bit blurry quality, everything gave the presentation a soul that felt raw and real.
Aesthetic of the 80s to early 00s anime
Ethan Cook
Easton Hall
> a bit blurry quality,
Dragon Ball Super tried to bring that back in the second half of the series by way of video filters... to mixed results. But yeah, I feel you on the hand drawn backgrounds aspect ratio thing.
Jace Roberts
anime just isnt as soulful as it used to be.
i guess its too much work and cost to do it these days
Asher Perry
Most anime from back them looked like garbage.
Jason Reed
Waaaah why doesn't modern anime have soul like muh nostalgia? Just look at these unmoving screenshots I took of this hardly animated show compared to this newer iteration with much more consistent movement. Just lool at how they altered the character designs and shading to accommodate the increase in animation, it doesn't conform to my aesthetic preference when I take screenshots now. The entire medium is shit now, I'm just going to go back to watching the classics like Inuyasha and Tenchi Muyo.
Adam Cruz
don't forget contrast and vibrancy
Kayden Young
please tell me that isn't real
Parker White
Exactly.
Why is the armpit censored.
I don't know man, except for some low budget OVAs, even long running series like Ashita no Joe season 2, Maison Ikkoku, Dragon Ball, Inuyasha(first series) look great. Even the best hentai were made in this era.
Indeed.
Easton Wilson
Imagine writing this while posting the perfect example of your points being undermined. I mean holy shit, you can't actually be defending the way the second shot looks.
> Just lool at how they altered the character designs and shading to accommodate the increase in animation, it doesn't conform to my aesthetic preference when I take screenshots now.
They look objectively worse, user. And "increase in animation" is not an excuse when there were better animated shows in the 90s that looked just as good as Pokemon.
Cooper Williams
Most of the shows you listed are hardly animated. If you like watching characters not move on unmoving backgrounds, sure they look great. Some people like actual animation, though.
Logan Nguyen
Oh yeah Cardcaptor sakura looks great as well.
Isaiah Wilson
>hardly animated.
I don't think so user. Even something as mainstream as cowboy bebop looks great and it had some of the best animation going by TV standard.
Isaiah Adams
The point went over your head, apparently. Sun and Moon is more consistently animated and fluid than the original series could have ever dreamed to be, if you lile actual animation, there's no fucking contest between the two. Sorry it doesn't fit your preference for unmoving screenshots, maybe you should try actually watching the show?
>there were better animated shows in the 90s that looked just as good as Pokemon.
Go ahead and list them all.
Tyler Lewis
>they're skimping for this reason, that, and the third
those are justifications, no number of which makes it look any less appalling
Hunter Nguyen
this is a point that could be actually researched. find the average number of unique drawings per second from a sample of anime for various years and see if a trend can't be identified. i sure af woudn't wanna do it, but it could be done, so long as the sample size is big enough and a rigid definition for unique drawing is set.
Ethan Collins
>I don't think so
>cowboy bebop
Cowboy Bebop is not on that list of shows I said were hardly animated. Cowboy Bebop looks great, it's also an exception. Don't go trying to act like stuff like Bebop was the fucking norm throughout the 90s because you've watched like maybe 20 or 30 shows from the whole decade.
Lincoln Bailey
To use other shonen/kids' shows examples, Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z/Dragon Ball GT, Yu Yu Hakusho, Tenchi Muyo, and Ranma were all more fluid than Pokemon and were all relatively detailed, well illustrated, and well shaded for their respective genres. The point that's going over YOUR head is that you don't have to draw characters looking like derpy, amorphous, rubber armed retards in order to facilitate good animation. They could've kept the original designs AND animated it better.
Jacob Garcia
Sun and Moon looks fine, user. The only reason you don't think so is because you're used to the former artstyle and have an irrational, kneejerk reaction to change. Did you even watch any of Sun and Moon? There's so much more passion in it than there was in the original anime. There's a whole episode parodying Ping Pong the Animation and it's obvious they had fun with it. Pokemon battles generally have actual movement instead of shit like Pikachu assuming tbe thunderbolt curl and not moving while an electric effect frame flashes on screen as it pans around and unmoving shot.
Blake Baker
It's less detailed. That's something that no amount of excuses can change.
Adrian Robinson
>Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z/Dragon Ball GT, Yu Yu Hakusho, Tenchi Muyo, and Ranma were all more fluid than Pokemon
Please don't tell me you mean more fluid than Sun and Moon, because you might be a retard if you do. If you mean the original Pokemon, then I agree. Otherwise you may need to actually sit down and watch a few episodes of Sun and Moon and something like DBZ back to back and reassess what you think consistently fluid animation is.
Nathaniel Williams
they just dont make anime like they used to
Joshua Phillips
Gunbuster was pretty good as well.
Jeremiah Nelson
What excuses? Why do you think more detailed shadowing or detailed designs is inherently better to begin with to they point you value it over more detailed movement? If you just want super detailed still frames, just read manga.
Ryan Evans
the digimon reboot is evidence that they actually can make modern anime look exactly like 20 year old anime.
aka there is no sensible excuse for how shitty Dragon Ball Super looks.
Leo Harris
Does anyone know how to replicate this effect in Clip studio paint or perhaps photoshop
Christopher Murphy
Am I the only one who thinks that nu-Ash looks like he has a shitty middle school mustache?
Matthew King
>the digimon reboot
Which one are you talking about? The 6 part movie series looked anything but good.
Mason King
Digimon utilised digital colouring from the get-go though, so it's not a case of copying the aesthetics of cel anime in the reboot.
Tyler Ward
lay off the weed
Grayson Harris
You posted pictures, not a video. One is uglier and has less detail. No amount of excuses can change that. And it's not just a change of style, as you said in your last post, before taking the goalposts on another quarter mile sprint. It's clearly, and objectively, less detailed.
Austin Brooks
The character desgins themselves look shitty compared to the original ones.
John Watson
>he watches post-00s anime
Carter Brown
>ywn see again experimental dezaki kino
Cameron Foster
Right and the original point was complaining about cherrypicked screenshots of fucking animation is braindead retarded because you're complaining about how one doesn't look as good when you screenshot it in still frames when it looks better in actual motion. It being less detailed in a screenshot does not inherently make it worse, sorry. That would be your preference, which is why I said if your preference is toward having the most details in an image as possible whether it moves or not, perhaps you should read manga instead of watching animation.
Zachary Sanders
Say what you will about dezaki's infatuation with stills, it looked kino as fuck.
Jacob Davis
Peak Oshii.
Kayden Green
It's a damn pity people mostly know the Golgo 13 movie for that dated CG helicopter scene. The movie outside of that sequence is a visual delight.
Carson Garcia
Adrian Lopez
And then you spent half a dozen posts spewing defensive hyperbole like saying it's fine, not "good enough", but that a clearly less detailed picture is just fine, saying it's just a change in style - which it is not, that it's "just nostalgia", that it's "just a kneejerk reaction", and so on, when there is a clear and immediately obvious difference between them.
Until now, finally, in this post at last owning up to the fact that one of those pictures is just plain ugly and lacking detail.
PROTIP: If you don't want people to disagree with you, you might want to stop spewing outrageous bullshit that you can't defend and spend half an hour backpedaling on before saying something that you actually believe.
Andrew Jenkins
user, his initial post was very clear about what he meant, I think you should get tested for developmental disorders if you couldn't figure it out.
Nathan Rodriguez
artistically it's questionable
aesthetically it's disgusting
personally i like it
the jump in pic related is unconvincing though
Landon Ortiz
As was mine. Which he didn't address, opting to deflect and instead start spewing blatant falsehoods like how it's just a different artstyle, how it's just a kneejerk reaction - and all that, you know the drill.