What are the themes of this show?

How does this line relates to the themes of the show? I remember ryuko saying during the final battle "True, we are neither human nor clothing, but at the same time we are also human, clothing, and we are everything!"

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how did promare end and solve the issue
why cant trigger hire better writers?

Trigger's shows are not supposed to be watched with big brain energy.

Humans are different than clothing

You know what to do. Watch it again.

Kill la Kill also solves the same issue as promare by the end when they find out that love is what combines chaos and order to create balance in the world. But what confuses me is that promare also addresses the law of identity but I don't know what it means in the context of the two shows.

Can we talk about the potential taste and aroma of Satsuki's perfect, regal, flawless ass, which is as pale as moonlight?

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why did you watch promare? i couldnt get through 4 minutes before i stopped watching it. looked like some faggy disney shit. firemen fight supernatural stuff but less watchable than fire force

read

I will now watch your anime

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>how did promare end and solve the issue
With the two antithetical forces (Lio/Burnish side/forces of rebellion/desire to burn and Galo/human side/forces of repression/desire to extinguish fire) finding mutual understanding and common ground and brining back balance to the world. It's literally spelled out, how did you miss that?

SATSUKI IS THE HOTTEST GIRL IN HISTORY AND ALSO THE MOST BEAUTIFUL

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No, contradiction is the opposite of truth, dumb woman

¬(p ∧ ¬p)

Ow The Edge is clothes, not human. But it's her humanity that saves everyone in the end. Best Girls success at fight club and the resulting increase in status for her family didn't produce more happiness but less. Gamagori's truest freedom was restrictive self-discipline. Even Satsuki's "I must be fascism to stop the fascism" is itself sorta contradictory - you literally cannot fight fire with fire

For one, the Student Council members are referred to as the four devas, ie the Four Heavenly Kings in Buddhism, who are said to be protectors of Lord Sakra, living atop "Mount Sumeru" (the center of the Buddhist universe) which you'll find looks similar to the design of the strange mountain that Honnoji Gakuen sits atop. Mount Sumeru is said to be populated with terraces where different levels of Sakra's followers reside, similar to the star system in the series.
Honnoji Academy is a reference to the Honnoji Incident in 1582, where Nobunaga was betrayed by his general Akechi Mitsuhide at the Honnoji Buddhist temple in Kyoto. This is alluded to when student council member Sanageyama directly quotes Mitsuhide's famous "The enemy awaits at Honnō-ji!" speech. Ragyo = Nobunaga, the daimyo trying to unify Japan (Ragyo trying to take over the world), and Satsuki = Akechi Mitsuhide, the general that betrays her at Honnoji (the same place that Satsuki betrays her mother in the series). This also fits with the idea of the temple sitting atop Mount Sumeru, since Buddhist temples are often architecturally designed to invoke the imagery of Sumeru (you will also find images online that show Honnoji Gakuen, when seen from afar, is designed to look like a Kamui uniform with it's arms in a round circle, relating to the Buddhist meditation position where practitioners bring their hands in a circle in front of them and imagine themselves as Mount Sumeru).

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fuck off back to gaia you emoji spewing retard

yes, you literally can

The light seen emanating from Satsuki and Ragyo is a reference to the "rainbow body" phenomen, a state of spiritual realization in Tibetan Buddhism, wherein light is said to emanate from practitioners as they reach higher levels of understanding. In the most advanced state, where one is said to have attained complete knowledge, rainbow colors are seen. Not only does light emanate from Satsuki and Ragyo, but Ragyo also exhibits rainbow colors, and at one point even specifically refers to herself as "one who knows all the truths in this world." You'll also note that during the bath scene with Satsuki (which Ragyo refers to as a "ritual") at the climax of the scene Satsuki's chakra (specific energy points on the body) are very clearly shown as being opened.
The story of Kill la Kill may be a reference to an ancient Tibetan apocalypse mythology, that predicts a war in which foreign invaders will be defeated by a king from a distant land that joins forces with the gods of Mount Sumeru to bring peace and understanding to the world (something to that effect), which is possibly a reference to Ryuko joining forces with Satsuki to defeat the aliens. More generally speaking though, the story I think focuses on Ryuko's personal "path to enlightenment" (i.e., the Way she's not supposed to Lose), and how she's helped by her Kamui (god clothing) to come to an ultimate understanding (or Nirvana) about herself and the nature of her existence, and to be at peace with it. This is most notable in that Ryuko defeats Ragyo at the end of the series, not by destroying her, but by "Absorbing" her with Senketsu. "Absorption" is a state known as jhana (meditative absorption) and is the last of the eightfold paths in Buddhist practice needed for attaining Nirvana.

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There are many other possible references, including what looks like a lotus blossom (very important Buddhist symbol) during the Absorption, Senketsu possibly being a Boddhisatva, and a visual nod to Nirvana (snuffing of the flame) in Senketsu's death scene.
The story revolves around Ryuko, who's deeply upset about her father's death, and later about the realization of her true nature/existence as being both clothing and human. But at the end of the series she accepts the nature of her existence and doesn't let it affect her anymore. As a thematic central message, that sort of character progression seems to resonate with Buddhist belief, that the world is filled with suffering born from a lack of understanding/acceptance of the nature of reality and one's self (dukkha), and that peace is achieved from coming to understand and accept that nature, and not allow it to affect one's self (nirvana). While Ryuko at the beginning of the series is confused and angry by the death of her father, at the end of the series she can think back to Senketsu (who also had passed away) and smile knowingly (the fact that her father and Senketsu both share an eyepatch seems to make the parallel all the stronger). Ryuko's "way" was the path to her coming to accept the nature of life and of herself, which is why the Buddhist imagery seems an appropriate a thematic umbrella.

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>IT IS DEEP BECAUSE REFERENCES
this has to be one of worse fucking writing cop outs for bad writing

>How does this line relates to the themes of the show?
SATSUKIS THICC EYEBROWS

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Figuratively.
Why's it bad?

That's an interesting comment, thank you
>Ow The Edge is clothes, not human. But it's her humanity that saves everyone in the end
I disagree. Clothes are clearly order/supression and not chaos/love, and that metaphor is emphasized throughout the show like in how clothes and life fibers are used to control people and in how the most powerful dictator is a fashionista.

Addendum:

Gamagori - Vaisravana
"He who hears all"

This is the chief of the four kings and protector of the north. He is the ruler of rain. His symbolic weapons are the umbrella or pagoda. Wearing heavy armor and carrying the umbrella in his right hand, he is often associated with the ancient Indian God of wealth. Associated with the color yellow or green

Sanageyama -Virudhaka
"he who causes growth"

King of the south and one who causes good growth of roots. He is the ruler of the wind. His symbolic weapon is the sword which he carries in his right hand to protect the Dharma and the southern continent. Associated with the color blue

Jakuzure - Dhrtastra
"he who upholds the realm"

King of the east and God of music. His symbolic weapon is the pipa (stringed instrument). He is harmonious and compassionate and protects all beings. Uses his music to convert others to Buddhism. Associated with the color white

Inumuta - Virupaksa
"he who sees all"

King of the west and one who sees all. His symbolic weapon is a snake or red cord that is representative of a dragon. As the eye in the sky, he sees people who do not believe in Buddhism and converts them. His ancient name means he who has broad objectives. Associated with the color red

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because adding endless references to religion/history/books etcs without a well thoughtout story is like building a brick house on mud

But why is it not well thought out?
It seems like a simple story.

then say figuratively?

fuck you

it isnt well thought out and u are assumign this is some grand work by a genius but it isnt
>Nakashima: I am the one who added an explanation for it after all! (laughs) Also, if I write a completely normal script I don’t think Imaishi-san would show much interest in it, so I’m always stuffing in these elements that make it seem like I have a screw loose. A prototypical example of that in Kill la Kill would be that there are a bunch of crazy characters who appear with this sense of “I’m steadfast in my beliefs, and I will still never stop to listen to someone else’s opinion,” and that made writing the script a lot of fun. I decided from the very beginning not to add in a single normal character (laughs)

You are a literally ape, throwing feces around in response to insight and knowledge being provided to you. KlK is too smart for you.

Your criticisms are as empty as your brain.

This say absolutely nothing about the story not being well thought out. A script by the Coen or Lynch isn't "normal" and doesn't have normal characters either, are those not thought out?

im sorry i dont have autism like you and can only enjoy things after finding dribble non sensical references about anime
you are like those 6 hour youtube reviewers for marvel movies

>script by the Coen or Lynch isn't "normal"
ya they dont just just add in characters out of random
also the work speaks for itself a coen brothers movie is no where close to the """'writing""" of kill la kill and its horrible pacing for a show
>i just added fun things because it is fun!
oh it shows

The direct payoff to this scene was when Satsuki turned on Ragyo, and that's when the true meaning behind stuff such as "oppression is freedom" became clear.
As for the greater meaning of "truths of the world", or of the universe according to Ragyo in relation to the speech at the ending, the point was to tear down every rule, dogma, label by blurring all identities and definitions, that's why everything can be one thing as well as its opposite.

But she IS life fibers, but acts human anyway. You're right in that when she throws what's essentially a tantrum about being life fibers instead of human she goes way off the compassionate path she'd gotten on with the Makenkoushou family. But that's the contradiction innit?

>ya they dont just just add in characters out of random
What character was added randomly?
>also the work speaks for itself a coen brothers movie is no where close to the """'writing""" of kill la kill
How?
>and its horrible pacing for a show
How is the pacing bad?
>>i just added fun things because it is fun!
He never says that in that interview.

I'm not assuming it's some grand work by a genius, the actual story sans subtext is just simple, straight forward, and accomplishes everything it sets out to do in its relatively tight story. I don't see the actual problem with it, all you're saying is "allusions don't make it good" without saying what actually makes it bad. Is it perfect? No, I have issues with how easily discarded Nudist Beach as a full organization was, but other than that I can't think of any major story issues.

I mean I enjoyed it primarily for less of the Galaxy brain reasons, more for the bombastic nature of the characters and how rediculous Imaishi makes everything. The look and feel, how well Sawano's soundtrack amps the show, everything about it is pure joy.

But context given to the symbolism and imagery that is interwoven into every visual design choice throughout he show is always something I can appreciate. And people who are obviously learned on the subjects they talk about and can provide such a concise analysis are always worth listening to. Taking some out of context remark translated from an interview in another language in order to discredit the insight they were trying to give you would suggest that you are not very bright or receptive to new information.

ya you are not going to win this lmao no matter how hard you try. Kill la Kill isnt known for its writing and no matter how much you have autism and lack reading comprehension it doesnt make it good in anyway. When people talk about kill la kill it isnt "oh the story is sooo good" it is usually the animation or the character design
>A prototypical example of that in Kill la Kill would be that there are a bunch of crazy characters who appear with this sense of “I’m steadfast in my beliefs, and I will still never stop to listen to someone else’s opinion,” and that made writing the script a lot of fun.
bunch of crazy characters appear = i added fun things because fun

>>IT IS DEEP BECAUSE REFERENCES
Yes.

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you know whats not bright?
thinking some anime with cool action scenes, fun characters and the writer literally saying he wanted to write something fun and wasting days of your life trying to find connection to Buddhism and call others out when they say this is a waste of time.
>insights
it doesnt make kill la kill more enjoyable or i unserstand kill la kill better because budha is involved and it seems the writers threw it bc "cool"
you sound like those eva fans trying to dig deeper into the christian symblozism even tho anno said he used it because "cool"