This ending turns NGE into unironically the most uplifting anti-blackpill story in anime

Because apparently showing just glimpses of everyone fucking dying was not enough for people, they had to have a detailed rundown on every little detail of the apocalypse. EoE was an unnecessary edgefest that felt literally nothing like the 26 episodes that preceded it, but it's what people wanted.

thats not the point. im saying those are really basic things most people should learn rofl, but i guess they apply well to otakus and resonated with anno since i suppose a LOT of people fail to realize that shit. the point for me is that we have all this buildup and shit only for the ultimate theme and message to be something a bit lukewarm like that. it's a good character arc for shinji and closes his coming to age story well, but i would've preferred something a lot more poignant that seems like an actual solution suggested other than the acceptance of the status quo in that, "well theres not much we can do it about other than accept interacting with others will hurt us". falls a bit flat, especially after we just saw a scene in which a giant titty monster killed all of humanity rofl. it by no means bad, but it could've been better.

rebuilds and EoE exist purely to milk the shit out of people who weren't happy with the meanigful ending

>"don't run away from responsibilities"
But the actual message of the show was "sometimes running away is also fine". Never running away was portrayed just as unhealthy as its opposite.

This. Anno even said as much.

Anno did say in an interview once that if you weren't an otaku, Eva's message wouldn't come across right. Those messages that we take for granted (I liked the ending but it didn't make any 'new' points to me) were ones that Anno felt the otaku community desperately needed to hear precisely because they were so fundamental, but still not understood by the otaku community. Sadly it didn't really work and most fans just obsessed over the waifus.

user the director was doing hard drugs when he directed this episode.

what a shame, i just came to Zig Forums looking for a NGE waifu thread to save some pics, i got a anti waifu thread instead
but while im here, i agree with this guy 100% except that isnt my favorite piece of media, i felt more like i wasted my time on topics i already know well

yah i get that, but i guess it's just semantics in that i don't really consider that to be a REAL solution per se, its more so a realization and even a resignation to the fact that apparently nothing can be done about it. when we think of a solution in a normal sense we think of theres a problem, this solution will solve the problem. the realization evangelion has the watcher come upon instead suggests that this problem exists, however there is no way to solve it, rather we must simply accept that the problem will always exist, and theres nothing to be done about it. and one can extrapolate from shinji's own arc that through this acceptance we are expected to grow. im not a fan of that rofl i would've much rather seen some conviction and a grand statement and grow through that way. like again, it just sort of falls flat when compared to the grand and epic scale of the rest of the show.
yeah and i acknowledged that in my previous posts. i don't think its bad, it'll just fall flat to anyone not an otaku (most people outside of japan). it certainly hit me hard when i watched it at 14 but now that im older my views have changed rofl.

>cope
>'it was intended to be that way' 'they' said it asspull
Wanna try some actual arguments next?

An ending needs to be earned for whatever message it conveys to resonate strongly. Otherwise it's just a cop-out, a cheap way to please a certain part of the audience accustomed to positive endings, a lazy wrap-up along the lines of "It was all a nightmare."
Moreover, I believe most people will agree pain is an inevitable part of life, tragedy is almost necessary for self-growth (this doesn't mean you need to be "blackpilled") and thus the idea that everything is solved the moment you learn to live with your flawed self is a sort of defeat.

There can't be any better argument than the creators themselves saying it.

Nothing is solved.
Shinji doesn't even learn to love himself at the end of the show.
He only learns that he can learn to love himself(in the future).

Which is still a big step to take for someone like Shinji. He hasn't magically fixed his problems, he's merely earned the initiative to try. He's taken the first step on his journey to self-actualization.

sir u understand the ending gratz
it is anti black pill indeed, it unironically avoided my approaching suicide,
>maybe maybe i can like myself!

people bitching because, they don't want to except truth or didn't understand the ending or they have no escapism issues so they can't relate the main theme of show (which is very rare).

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imagine skipping last 2 episodes. Before watching eva some fags recommended me to skipping last 2 ep. which is probably worst advice i ever heard fortunately i didnt take

thats not even a proper ending, it was a rushed ending so this not counts

Without the context of EoE explaining instrumentality, the ending makes no sense. Episode 24 ends with Shinji crying to Misato about killing Kaworu. Then 25 starts with a bunch of black room interviews, where did that even come from? How does that follow from the previous episode? Nowadays we know but imagine watching that as it came out, feels like you skipped an episode.

>Nothing is solved.
Right. So what's the uplifting part of that? It's like thinking someone with suicide ideation is going to be alright because they feel momentarily okay.

>it never actually prescribes a solution to the problem presented
my answer to those fags is
eva prescribes a solutions
which is fucking start to try and stop escaping.
stop targeting verification from others just do things which makes you love yourself

Why does it have to be uplifting? Why aren't there more stories that just say "hey life is shit and dying isn't the worst option, just deal with it"?
I'm tired of stories telling me that I should be happy or finding solutions.

EoE is anti-doomer too. Explicitly so to the point that it practically beats you over the head with it, in fact.

Eva in general is a very uplifting series at its core. It shows that life is worth living no matter how much you suffer.