Why are there no Old West isekai?
Watching S2 of Konosuba and the ED made me wonder. Why is it all Medieval Europe JRPG land? It seems like it would be the perfect setting for this genre.
Why are there no Old West isekai?
Bentley Powell
Jackson Collins
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Daniel Lopez
for a simple reason is not attractive simple as that besides is mostly cowboys while the other theme is really fantastic and perfect for isekai.
for example the game with an old west setting tengai makyou 3 barelly worked and several got offended and triggered by the game
Tyler Carter
Trigun, kind of, if you stretch the definition of isekai a bit.
Andrew Jenkins
Why did they get triggered?
Evan Parker
>implying a Wild West fantasy world couldn't be pulled off
Ethan Russell
>Why is it all Medieval Europe JRPG land?
Stop fucking asking this question you retards, isekai grew out of medieval fantasy stuff, that's why it's all medieval fantasy stuff, it's functionally a subset of that genre. It's married to medieval European fantasy like noir is married to modern urban environments.
Mason Fisher
The "Wild West" is "problematic".
You've got native americans being oppressed, you've got racism, sexual discrimination, exploitation and slavery.
All jokes aside, isekai is easier with the standard fantasy tropes because it's [the standard fantasy tropes].
Right now, the anime industry is co-opted by the lowest common denominator: the consumer. The consumer doesn't want variety, the consumer doesn't want new, the consumer doesn't want innovation, the consumer doesn't want fresh ideas.
The consumer wants waifus. they want moe. They want safety and comfort.
You wanted this, you voted for this, you decided this, so this is what you get. Enjoy your seasonal mediocrity.
Xavier Smith
That’s a good point. I tend to think of it as a genre on its own but it really is just a sub-genre of fantasy.
Leo Campbell
So to go along with this question, are there any really good anime with an Old Western setting or vibe?
Evan Diaz
The wild was "wild" because it was on the fringes of society. The only thing maintaining law and order was 1 sheriff, sometime they were the bad guy because they just like conducting everyone's lives and wearing titles like a hat.
And maybe the reason the town is a ghost town.
The medieval ages had guilds. They were a social institution. Like proto-colleges, but with more authority and influence.
The medieval setting is better suited for an isekai narrative. Because you have characters that want to do things and be productive.
A west is where people went to live on their own. To get away from cities. They want to live by their own rules.
In that way, it wouldn't mesh with RPG mechanics either.
The Japanese like stories about making the best with what you got. And following rules. That's why you get isekai like Shield Hero who picks the weakest and unwanted Slave, and made something of her. And the countless other manga that are like "I became the most powerful with this underrated skill"
Hunter Turner
Why are there no Second Congo War isekai?
Reading Jason Stearns' Dancing in the Glory of Monsters made me wonder. Why is it all Medieval Europe JRPG land? It seems like it would be the perfect setting for this genre.
Benjamin Perez
This wasn’t even a funny reply.
Blake Gray
Wasn't meant to be.
Hunter Ortiz
I guess if you're a stupid.
The mild west was irl boring and nothing happened.
Natives were oppressed by the American government, farmers in the middle of fucking nowhere barely did anything.
And many natives themselves were cowboys.
The stories you think are true are almost entirely made up and fictional, it's literally the equivalent of thinking Europe has real dragons and goblins and shit.
All made up, fake.
And btw America had better gun control at the time than they do in modern day, mostly because of how shit the guns were and ammo wasn't exactly something you wanted to just waste.
Cameron Fisher
The actual reason is because a bunch of RPGs use a generic medieval fantasy setting and having actual stats appear would feel insanely out of place in any other type of setting.
Medieval European settings are a dime a dozen.
Logan Hernandez
eurotrash detected.
don't you have some country to bail out of debt or some influx of muslim immigrants turning your cities into sharia slums to deal with right now?
The Wild West was a time of myth, legend, and iconic heroes.
What was europe doing in the 1800's?
Oh yeah, getting your shit pushed in. Again.
Nathaniel Torres
But there is.
Benjamin Wood
It's not problematic. It's fantasy. There was a time people respected the intended audience and didn't consume products that weren't made for them. Discerned the author's expression, minded context, instead of making up their own interpretation.
Ayden Brown
I wasn't insulting it.
It's basically Americas equivalent to medieval Europe.
Except all the folklore creatures were forgotten, except for the cactus cat.
Anyway, yeah a lot of myths and legends came about during it like Billy the kid.
That's what caused the wild west genre to be made, but a lot of it is fictional.
Medieval Europe didn't have dragons, feudal Japan didn't have kitsune or magical tanuki, and cowboys were boring most of the time.
Austin Cooper
Old isekai was propaganda to inspire men to hop onto trains and ship out to fight wars in other countries. Romanticize the idea of being out of your depth.
Austin Adams
>cowboys were boring most of the time.
"cowboy" is a complicated term that a lot of people attach a lot of different meanings to, like "gunfighter" and the like. Most are trumped-up bullshit, like you said.
Still, it was a magical, mythical time that *could* be explored in anime.
The actual problem is that there are genuinely *hundreds* of books, movies, and television series from the 50's all the way up to modern times that thoroughly and completely explore the "Wild West"...
But since they're not japanese cartoons with uguu moe moe catgirls eating cake and fighting over the strawberry on top it falls outside of Zig Forums's sphere of relevance.
Bentley James
>it's literally the equivalent of thinking Europe has real dragons and goblins and shit.
>implying goblins aren't just slavs
Leo Allen
>And btw America had better gun control at the time than they do in modern day, mostly because of how shit the guns were and ammo wasn't exactly something you wanted to just waste.
>what is the Brooks–Baxter War
>what is the Battle of Liberty Place
>what is the Battle of Blair Mountain
>what is the Battle of Athens
Migrant redditors, everyone.
Jason Martinez
wait for Saki S3
Kayden Howard
Hunter Sanders
Gavin Martin
Dominic Reyes
FUCK Kyouko
Connor Carter
Ian Barnes
Kevin Edwards
>isekai grew out of medieval fantasy stuff,
I’m pretty sure the first Isekai was The Wizard of Oz, which 100% isn’t medieval fantasy. And if it’s not Oz, then it’s Alice in Wonderland.
Unless you’re gonna be anal about it and complain that “those aren’t aaaaaaaaanimay!!” To which I reply:
Digimon was an isekai and was 100% not medieval fantasy, and I’m pretty sure that predates SAO which is the influencer for all modern isekai.
Angel Davis
Bruh wild west era is from 1865-1910 well after the American civil war so idk where your getting the slavery part from
Matthew Wright
Trigun, Outlaw Star, and Bebop. Though their all space westerns. What I wanna see is a Dark Western, like the Dark Tower but without King’s multiverse modern world bullshit. Just a cool ass story about a gunslinger killing demons in the wild west.
Adam Morgan
I'm more suprised there weren't any cowboy mangas that where popular. I know in the 60s 70s and 80s pre economic crisis american Westerns where incredibly popular in Japan. Like even to this day things like Country western music and stuff is oddly popular over there
Nicholas Russell
Japan. Dragon Quest.