Time for actual discussion. Do you think the parallelism with Goku's SS awakening is trying to show the difference between SS and UI (explosion of rage vs control of emotions like Merus said) or will Goku combine the best of both worlds and go beyond UI?
Dragon Ball Super
>the best of both worlds and go beyond UI
That's some dragon ball super endgame shit right there.
Beyond emotion and beyond instinct (whatever that may be).
I just hope Toyotaro doesn't use it yet because to round out the SS vs UI symbolism is a pretty good capstone for the franchise.
I am expecting there to be some form that is somehow UI but better, but we probably won’t see (or even hint at) it until the next arc. Super Saiyan with UI on top of it sounds like it would just make Goku into a literal God, but Super Saiyan with Blue was extremely underwhelming compared to what people expected so who knows
>super saiyan with blue
Super Saiyan with god form, my bad
UI is supposed to be the best.
The strongest beings in the universe all use it, one of them would've created a better version if there was one.
Thanks to the Vegetabro for a fun couple of threads.
Does anyone have that jobber pose pic he posted? Mods nuked that thread before i could save it. Might edit it so it shows Cell beating Vegeta since i am a sucker for that pose meme.
The only beings in the universe that use UI are angels, they would never attain a SS+UI state no matter how hard they tried
>Combine rage and calmness
That said, SS being triggered by rage is just one way of activating/achieving it for the first time. They actually don't need any emotion to activate it afterwards.
Nice dubs Bro. Honestly I feel like this would be a huge power up for goku and will finally allow him to be able to challenge jiren to a 1v1 when he is is God mode. Although the outcome is very clear that goku will still have a lot to learn even after having these two powerups. Vegeta with those powerups on the other hand would destroy jiren
What's next for Yamcha?
>D Team Z Fighter
Probably winning the world cup considering he's a very above average human who is in baseball.
>Time for actual discussion
Ok. If two fighters had a mouthbeam clash, would it be considered an indirect kiss?
So what's stopping Goku from using UI in every fight from now on?
what's moro's endgame? seriously how far can we go for now? we reached angels and gods even Zeno, how higher are we reaching this time?
A trigger.
Nothing. It would just be another transformation
Wanting to ensure his base forms don't get rusty.
What would your unironic thoughts be if Cell came back? Would it piss you off to see yet another recurring character or do you think the franchise is at a point where you'd rather just have familiar faces together?
But super saiyan originally need a trigger too until it didn't. And angels can use UI without a trigger.
>even Zeno
no?
>will Goku combine the best of both worlds and go beyond UI?
I think it's this one. Ever heard of canalizining rage?
Now that I think about it Goku should technically be able to attain SS + UI since he achieved complete mastery on SS back on the Cell Saga, meaning he no longer needs rage to activate the form and he's completely calm when using it.
we find out zenos true form and it turns out he is not really a kid and there is even higher level gods and the gods we have seen are just basic jobbers
It would be unnecessary since 17 and 18 are around along with the Cell Jrs.
Wasn’t there some thing about Goku not being able to use the spirit bomb as a super saiyan since his heart isn’t completely pure when he transforms, or was just some headcanon that got passed around the internet a decade ago?
the creator of the Super DBs
Should nu-SS4 be Broly exclusive or should Goku and Vegeta get it too?
Also, does Broly still have his tail?
>Bejitafag got banned
Enough.
Enter Jiren
Let's use drinking from the same cup as an example
> person A drinks from the cup thus leaving residue of their fluids on the cup
> person B drinks from the cup and comes in contact with the other person's fluids
> due to unintentional exchange of bodily fluids via a 3rd party item, it is an indirect kiss
If two people are using energy beams, the energy from the beam would evaporate and destroy the bodily fluids. Therefore, a mouth beam struggle DOES NOT count as an indirect kiss.
Corollary: if the energy beam is weak/fast enough to not evaporate and destroy the bodily fluids and either the fluids mix and or the fluids come in contact with the loser of the beam struggle it would be an indirect kiss.
Nice headcanon.
the final boss is ToGODtaro
That's true, we do have "Cell Saga" representation in them.
But Cell himself clearly has strong popularity with fans to this day, seeing the community's response to FighterZ as well as the Abridged series. And it'd be hard for there to be a theoretical "Gohan returns to prominence" arc without mentioning him.
can bejita and chichi do mouth beams? maybe that's how goku will get them to kiss.
>Goku not being able to use the spirit bomb as a super saiyan since his heart isn’t completely pure when he transforms
Yeah I remember this one.
It was a controversy regarding the Super Android 13 movie, Goku gathers energy to form a spirit bomb and then absorbs it in SS form.
People were speculating about if this could really be done or not since he's not pure of heart when in SS and should not be able to control it. There was also a theory about if SS Goku (Pre-Cell) could be mindcontrolled by Babidi like Veveta was.
It is easy to evade bans on Zig Forums, so i doubt he let that stop him. Probably got tired or just had to leave.
I would think Toriyama is seriously retarded. Cell is a guy with the potential of Goku, Vegeta and Frieza.
Sure why not.
I would accept him so long as he got a permanent new form that isn't just a recolor, unlike a certain someone.