I read One Piece for the first time and just finished reading Whole Cake Island. Why is it so bad? The plot seems to go nowhere, it just drags on endlessly and focuses too heavily on sidequests. Characters are not given any meaningful development as any sign of remote character growth is conveniently forgotten by the start of the next arc. The art style has also gotten worse over time to the point where I am questioning Odas ability to draw, or is it just him getting old? The same can be said about his humor which starts of as youthful and carefree only to degrade into a depressed and nihilistic caricature of it's glory days as repetition of stale and outdated jokes becomes the norm. While I am not finished with the manga, I do not think that it is getting any better and it is evident that the manga should have been trimmed down massively and would have needed a much more goal-oriented focus to achieve better flow and make for a more interesting read.
I read One Piece for the first time and just finished reading Whole Cake Island. Why is it so bad...
The Satan trips are accurate.
The first half of the arc was boring and nearly garbage. Only exception being Luffy/Nami vs Cracker. The second half was great, though it had pacing issues but nothing compared to bird cage.
Sanji was the worst part of his own arc. Amazing.
Well one piece is the greatest show ever. Its just that you are too stupid to understand it
lmao if you think that's bad just wait until you get to Oden
>stfu
>Well one piece is the greatest show ever. Its just that you are too stupid to understand it
>stfu
Jesus Christ why does One Piece attract so many underage faggots here?
One of many flaws to One Piece is it has the opposite of character development of plot progression. You see, with every arc that Oda introduces he raises more questions than he answers making the reader feel like they're getting further away from any kind of progress in the story. Oda will create narrative threads to his story and leave them unaddressed. He will foreshadow events and hype up characters & plot elements only to switch to a new topic. He ends the chapter on a cliffhanger saying "SOON" only for the next chapter to introduce completely new characters & plot that is unrelated to anything else that was going on in the story. Every other chapter Oda adds a new character or backstory leaving 100's of unaddressed questions making the reader feel like the story is taking a step back instead of forward.
You are right although I did not like the fight between Karakuri and Luffy either. Even though there was a sense of urgency from the plot, it felt too rushed. Luffys powerscaling was too forced as he had not been able to beat Cracker or Doflamingo before, yet conveniently had a new technique that gave him the edge over Katakuri.
Also this. Too many sidecharacters means that more time and paneling is needed for them which slows down pacing and makes it boring to read.
True, if for example you were into this series because you liked the strawhats then prepare to be disappointed cause for the past 10 years they haven't had any development.. This is why One Piece gets a lot of hate. Oda pulls in a certain audience, and then switches focus which makes the initial reason those people were into the series vanish. So if you liked One Piece because of the interesting world, that gets discarded when they go to a new island and it's completely different from the islands before it. (Samurai shit?) If you liked the series because of the fun adventure, that shit has also been abandoned to focus on oden wanking and samurai politics. Or if you happened to like some side characters, prepare to be disappointed when they become irrelevant 5 chapters later cause Oda moved onto new side characters.
Good summary user. The longer OP drags on, the more it disappoints. It might not be a lot but by the end of the series, sales will have gone down significantly.
he already made bank so
This. Oda is milking his series at the expense of his readers.
This is the truest pasta I've read. Oda's constant blueballing has been getting on my nerves and I'm seriously considering dropping this manga for good. I mean, we still barely know shit about Vagapunk, the green admiral, dragon and devil fruits etc. etc. but instead of closing off one of these plot threads, Oda keeps adding more mystery boxes to the narrative.
I was done at the Skypia Arc over 15 years ago. I was the target age demographic and thought it crap.
>too stupid to understand it
MUH NAKAMA
EVERY
SINGLE
ARC
Nigga get out
>True, if for example you were into this series because you liked the strawhats then prepare to be disappointed cause for the past 10 years they haven't had any development.
Yep I agree. Except for one thing. A ton of people, mostly shonentards think "development" is the be all, end all of what makes a character interesting. Development is just one aspect of it.
They don't consider
>Character dynamics
>Character introspection
>Dialogue
The problem with Oda is his main cast are tied down by gimmicks. Brooke's skull joke, Sanji's women thing, etc. and after 20 years nobody with a functional mind gives a shit about them anymore. They simply exist to take up panel space. Gimmicks aside, there's nothing of substance aside from the monster trio who get their badass moments in battle, and the rest of the crew who tend to plot related matters like spying on the enemies or whatever. But the characters themselves just feel empty. Like robots who serve to fulfill the plot and nothing else.
Any OP porn recommendation?
I agree with the general sentiment of your post.
But character development doesn't only have to refer to the character changing, growing up etc.
What I miss most about OP is the dreams of the strawhats. They have seemingly been forgotten, or made pointless in the context of the grander scope of the plot (who cares anymore about becoming the strongest swordsman, for example? Who cares about being the best doctor if things like Law's fruit exist?).
When I started following OP, this was one of the things that made it stand out. All of them had a goal, so I deluded myself into believing that they would actually work towards said dream. Compared to series like DB and Naruto etc, it was nice to see all of them having grand ambitions, instead of just the MC.
But overtime this regressed that way anyway. The only dream that gets pursued is Luffy becoming pirate king. Robin gets to read a poneglyph every 4 or 5 years, I guess? We don't get told what she's reading though.
Just like other shounen on the final chapter of one piece each strawhat will get a panel of them fulfilling their dreams. Zoro vs Mihawk is going to be a 2 page spread with the winner left ambiguous. But still I think you missed the point of what that guy is saying. No one would care about the strawhats dreams if they weren't interesting. I used to care about their dreams before they became flanderized. Now if any of them accomplish their goal all I'm going to say is "meh". You have to get the reader to like your character first before you try to convince them that their goals are worth reading for.
I enjoyed the Capone shooting oven with a gun chapter and the Jinbe finding an opening inside the wave chapter. I thought the climax of the arc was good, but Big Mom losing her mind here and there was very plot convenient and badly written imo.
Nothing of substance? Are you really so sure? Why would you say they have no substance? For example, tell me how Usopp and/or Zoro "lacks substance", I'm interested in what you have to say.
what has zoro done this arc besides getting lost or fighting or reacting to shit? What has usopp done besides being acting cowardly or spying or reacting to shit?
by "done" i'm specifically referring to aspects that enhance their character, not the plot.
Meh
>tell wanpissers their series is shit for over a decade
>they read 900+ chapters of it
>"wtf why is it so shit????"
No one to blame but yourselves
Why is he laughing?
Are you stupid? That was obvious bait. It was barely even bait.
That Jun one with Perona is the best imo.
He secretly hated ace.
I dropped it after reading it from 2004 to when Naruto and Bleach finally ended (circa Dressrosa)
If I can do it, you can too user. I believe in you.
it was always the worst of the big 3
New World is shit but still better than trash like HxH.
What pisses me off the most is that we spend dozens of chapters on stupid subplots and the main issues of our protagonists are resolved offscreen.
>Hey Chopper aren't you afraid of being a monster
>no actually I'm fine with being a monster I meditated on it in a fucking cover-page lol
Not just OP but, character bloat brings doom to every manga.
>if for example you were into this series because you liked the strawhats then prepare to be disappointed cause for the past 10 years they haven't had any development.
It's like all SHs plateaued many years ago and have nothing left to say or do. Like they're just going through the motions of everything they always do every time they show up on a new island. It's sad that Oda apparently can't think of new issues for them to tackle.
Remember when Nami was introduced, joined the crew, had massive character backstory/development, then solidified her attitude in the first 100 chapters?
The most developed character since they got into the Grand Blue is Buggy and even he just gets comedy development.