Legend of Galactic Heroes

How did the Alliance not get wiped out before Yang was born? From what it sounds, they did nothing but lose, lose, lose. They could never take territory from the Empire because Iserlohn Fortress existed. Sure, it was built only 1 year before he was born, but before he reached military age, they could've taken half their territory.

It's like the same pattern over and over again.
>Everyone above Yang is dumb.
>They fuck up everything.
>Yang has to save their losses.
>Because Alliance merely lost instead of getting wiped out, they get a huge morale boost.

The only time they actually won anything was the one time they put Yang in charge of assaulting the Fortress, and even then it was again because the retarded boomers in the Fortress didn't listen to the genius Oberstein.

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>From what it sounds, they did nothing but lose, lose, lose.
I'm assuming it was like Verdun. They lost soldiers, but they just kept sending in more.

it was pure luck user

>From what it sounds, they did nothing but lose, lose, lose.
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And for a long time they had the advantage of the Goldenbaums simply being dumb as fuck and putting practicing nepotism within the army.

they didn't get wiped out because the empire was equally incompetent

The Goldenbaum Dznasty army was led by incompetent inbred nobles who were obsessed with their fake honor

They went to debt to the Space Jews to keep themselves at war against the Empire. They kept the millitary standstill thanks to resources.

Yang... kak-ka

They had some competent admirals like Bucock. The rot was growing slowly for decades, but the FPA was still getting competent people in enough places to offset it. It wasn't until Truniht began his rise, that the corruption started becoming fatal for the FPA. Even then it probably could have held on if not for Reinhart seizing power in the Empire and burning out the similar rot and corruption there.

No one in the Empire was capable of winning the war before Reinhard came along.

The privileged people on both sides were in the war as a means of enriching themselves personally

The nobles of the Empire wanting military cred which directly correlates to additional wealth and power, and the politicians of the Alliance wanted public approval, as well as to keep the gears of the war industry nice and greasy

The point of a forever war isn't to actually win, it's just a convenient outlet for political jockeying and getting rich

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>No one in the Empire was capable of winning the war before Reinhard came along.

Merkatz & that albino loser who got killed instead of Wolfgang in the first Yang v Reinhard match in Iserlohn were probably in the game before Reinhard was even born. Oskar and Wolfgang also existed before Reinhard recruited them.

Everyone in the galaxy is mentally handicapped except for Yang and Reinhard and their direct subordinates.

Phezzan was their greatest ally then

Not really, when the FPA had enough of an advantage to possibly win and force the Empire to accept their independence, Phezzan would then help the Empire. They were playing both sides.

There was other great generals and stuff in the past, see the Year 730 Mafia.

I suspect Reinhard wasn't really that smart but had a great charisma and really great people under his command. I even think sometimes the series hints that in some subtle way.

The alliance DID have competent commanders during the 150 year war and DID win during it.

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That's from Gaiden though, he wouldn't know about it just from watching the main OVA.

The thing is that FPA had every material advantage going against them. This is evident from the far superior construction of imperial ships and bases like Iserlohn and Geiersburg. If they started heavily winning the empire could just dip deeper into their coffers and simply swamp them with numbers.

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Good, antisemitism does not belong here

She needed to cope harder.

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Combination of factors:
>The FPA knew when they left they'd eventually run back into the Empire. Their entire society has been on a war economy footing since they landed on Heinessen
>When the war began the Empire was utterly BTFO at Dagon and in a few subsequent battles that very nearly caused a civil war back in the Empire
>Invasions were not constant; the war had periods of hot-cold-hot depending mostly on what the Empire was doing at the time; the FPA's invasion was noted to be the first of its kind in the entire war for the Alliance.
>When year 730 rolled around, the Alliance got it's greatest batch of Admirals in the UC 730 mafia under Ashby, who were noted to be pretty much invincible up to 2nd Tiamat. After Ashby died there, the surviving admirals weren't as good, but still managed to hold off the Empire's attacks. Around this time the Empire builds Iserlohn and the war enters the stalemate we all know about in the series' opening season and the later Gaiden
>Reinhard and Yang were both considered geniuses of their generation, but the corrupt FPA administration and senior admiralty had become set in their ways after the Ashby era and thus were not so effective. When reinhard won Astarte, nearly three entire FPA fleets had been wiped out, which severely weakened them.
>After Yang takes Iserlohn the FPA is in it's best position to sue for terms, but the Alliance council, high off their victory, orders the invasion of imperial territory, which results in pretty much the entire FPA admiralty and fleet getting wiped out save for the 13th, 11th, 1st, and scattered survivors of the remaining fleets
>11th fleet wiped out entirely in the Battle of Doria during the NMSC coup
>FPA by time of operation Ragnarok only has the 13th fleet at Iserlohn, the 1st fleet, and the cobbled-together 14th and 15th fleets to stave off the entirety of the Imperial Armada

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pfff... you should wonder how the empire survived until then.

Monarchy cannot survive in a modern setting. Technology work against it.
They have to keep most of their population into fake-medievalism, only teaching them the bare minimum.
Even if they inherited machine that build themselves from their previous government, whoever give technology to the populace would have full popular support for a coup.

This entire show was a monarchy fanwank saying sorry at the last minute.
- Empire have the best ship
- Somehow no corruptions despite how easy it would be
- Unlimited production capability despite forced medievalism
- Superscience despite ultra conservative mindset

Meanwhile
- Alliance have shitty ship
- Full of corruption despite visible counter-power
- Too cheap to produce ship despite free capitalism
- No superscience despite everyone having access to science

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How do you know who has the better ships?

Rainhard recruited a bunch of talented people to his cause that had little hope of advancement under the old regime. Merkatz was never given full command, and always had to answer to/be directed by one inbred moron or another

The smartest leader isn't the smartest person in the room, it's the person smart enough to fill the room with the smartest people.

In the case of Yang, he was always the smartest though.

Which was both Yang and Reinhard, but Yang couldn't advance quickly to put his people in fleet command positions like Reinhard did early on by establishing his own admiralty. Fischer, Attemborough, Patrichev, and Murai were all pretty good fleet commanders, but they were all stuck as subordinate commanders in the 13th fleet, whereas Reinhard pushed all his own subordinate commanders into their own fleets while his personal fleet suffered from bad replacements, which is part of the reason why Yang won at Vermillion but lost the war at the same time.

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Why was there no Phezzani mass murder?

>Somehow no corruptions despite how easy it would be
>the empire
u wot m8?

>Yang only won because of bad replacements for Reinhardo-sama's subordinates!

Yang was the better tactical commander, while Reinhard was the better strategic leader. This battle was the culmination of that difference. Yang won, but because of Reinhard's strategic vision, it simply didn't matter.