Dragon Ball

Original DB is better than Z or Super.

Debate me on this

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No. Dragon Ball died after Piccolo and I didn't even watch it first.

There the exact same series.

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but you're right, why should I debate you?
>There the exact same series.
you're getting caught up in semantics, consider it to just be the distinction of pre-Saiyan Saga vs Saiyan Saga onward
there's a markable difference in tone, pacing, artstyle, and character writing

The chage in tone, pacing, artstyle, and character writing happened gradually, in fact it started as you'll notice a clear difference between the Demon King Piccolo saga & the earlier arcs.

I don't disagree, but it began to accelerate exponentially from Raditz's introduction

idk why people argue between series, they all clearly have a different vibe! U need to watch DB to appreciate Z, and u need to watch the whole thing to appreciate GT. I'd say DBZ including the movies is just as good as original DB. the only DB series people should be shitting on is super

yeah maybe if your a low test soicuck

I highly disagree on that.

No, semantics would be arbitrarily separating the series.

The King Piccolo arc had a completely different tone compared to earlier arcs, there were no jokes whatsoever in that arc & everything felt serious.

But the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai was much closer to pre-King Piccolo in tone, which shows that the King Piccolo arc was that serious as a deliberate decision by Toriyama after having an entire manga of comedic action stuff. I mean, it started with Krilling getting murdered so you were primed into its tone. When it ended, the series "went back" to a lighter tone even with the "same" villain.

Saiyan saga onwards isn't the same thing. It's not a super serious intermission into a comedic series, it's the series itself becoming much more of a serious action comic rather than fluffy action/adventure. At least until Cell. The Buu arc is reminiscent of original DB in tone, only transposed into the large scale and action-focused manga that it had become in the years since.

Too bad Buu was written like shit and none of the actual Dragon Ball charm was there.

But it was fun though

I like the entire manga overall, but it had its dips too. I was largely uninterested in most of the RR jobbers. The tournaments and both Piccolos were the best parts.

The Frieza & Saiyan sagas are the best arcs in the series.

I agree. King Piccolo is where the series starts getting worse in my opinion.

>optional comedy prequel better than anything
It only started getting readable when Piccolo showed up. In fact, I tell all my friends to just skip everything until around when that happens when they want to get into Dragon Ball.

I find it funny how you oldfags complain about how Dragon Ball use to have strategic battles and then it devolved into a powerlevel wanking contest. Well newsflash it was always a powerlevel wanking contest, there isn't any complex strategy involved in this series whatsoever.

>oldfags complain about how Dragon Ball use to have strategic battles and then it devolved into a powerlevel wanking contest
Who the fuck has ever done this you raging retard

Go search for them dumbass. If someone says that everything past the original db is garbage then you can spot their faggotry.

There was actual fighting and tricks of all kinds, more than Zhit or Shitper can say with its copy pasted blurring flurry rushes.

There was actual fighting and tricks of all kinds

What tricks, comedic gags don't count as strategy?

Sorry I forgot to greentext the first part.

There's really no debating, Chichi alone makes the original series superior

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I just made this thread but I'll ask here too. Is the manga or anime better for the whole series?

It's a lot faster pace, then again all manga are compared to their adaptions.

She doesn't even show up that often.

Goku was so much better a character when he was a kid

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Goku used to punish "bullies" mercilessly and had a higher kill count than Deathly Hallows when he was just a kid. Fuck Kami.

Super isn't even in the debate. It's just popcorn. DB/DBZ is steak.

I can't, you're correct.

Nah. Toriyama embraced his inner powerlevelfag and went completely off the rails during the Freeza-saga, since then it has been a steady decline. Once he reached the Buu-saga the manga was basically just a joke you couldn't take serious anymore. DBS is a spoof series by the way, I'm convinced that the original Toriyama from DB days would've killed himself if he knew what they did to his franchise.

It's good that he has heavy dementia these days, no need to torment the poor old man any further

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DB is steak. DBZ is Mc Donalds, still good but you get fat and disgusting if you have to many. DBS is having to eat your own turd since you have no other food available and have also already eaten everyone around you

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Is that good or bad