If your IQ is high enough to stick with it. There are so many anime I hated when I watched with English subs only to realize years later that the subs were just retarded and watching it in Japanese was way better. The humor, references, everything.
Too many normalfags think you can't learn using the shit you already like as a main source. That's been debunked. You can build your vocabulary and get used to the language straight from anime, raw manga, untranslated games etc. And that doesn't prevent you from listening to native normalfag conversations and learning that type of Japanese if you want to know how to "speak normally" too.
If you're going to spend thousands of hours on weebshit anyway you might as well develop the skills to understand it in it's native language with all the original meaning. So much is lost in translation not to mention all the shit with no translations in the first place.
What a dumb way to waste time op, if you are not going to live in japan there's no point learning it.
Michael Hernandez
Consuming thousands of hours of anime with shitty translations is a significantly worse waste of time. Might as well try to actually understand what you're watching.
Sebastian Harris
ive heard the subtitles are sometimes completely wrong. but i think i’m too low iq to learn it
Can you fucking read? >that doesn't prevent you from listening to native normalfag conversations and learning that type of Japanese if you want to know how to "speak normally" too.
Luke Thomas
what’s the best way to learn if i just want to understand not speak
Nolan Myers
ならば初めに普通な習うのw
Zachary Myers
Your grammar is absolute shit my guy. You really are living proof that "learning normally" doesn't work.
Adrian Powell
I have been studying a little every day and at least I feel like I am doing something with my worthless neet life
Nice bro. Remember that getting lots of input is primary. Make that your main focus and if you do eventually speak you won't end up sounding like this faggot
Jaxon Sullivan
what do you do exactly for studying besides watching anime? i want to start but i just care about understanding not really speaking
David Sanders
お前ら何も分かってない
Levi Torres
>There are so many anime I hated when I watched with English subs only to realize years later that the subs were just retarded and watching it in Japanese was way better.
But you're just doing the same thing as whoever translated it. What makes your understanding of the native speech better than the other translation?
Zachary Watson
read vns my dude using a text hooker with yomichan is a great way to start
Carter Sullivan
Notice how you'll see a dozen autists arguing with each other about what the best way to study is but you never see even one say "This is how I learned Japanese" It's impossible don't waste your time
Hunter Davis
>But you're just doing the same thing as whoever translated it. Understanding a language raw isn't the same as translating to your native language dipshit. It's impossible for any translation to be fully accurate, it's only a rough approximation. Many jokes, figures of speech, references etc are either bastardized into a very retarded version of what they were, or left out completely because they don't translate well.
Owen Green
what
Nicholas Parker
>" It's impossible don't waste your time
It's true, no Westerner has ever learned Japanese. In fact, "Japan" doesn't exist, it's just a mechanism developed by the rich to encourage global population decline by getting young men to take themselves out of the procreative pool.
Ryan James
it's not like you need someone to tell you how to do it. there's a million ways to learn and pretty much all of them will get you to the right place if you stick with it. they all have flaws but it's not like learning Japanese is some fine art - it's a language, and the more you try, the more the rough edges smooth out. Literally just read Japanese written by Japanese people, listen to Japanese spoken by Japanese people, if those two sources are the foundation of your learning you will eventually sound and write like that
Liam Cooper
does the vocabulary used in vns overlap with anime mostly or is it very different?
Logan Jones
This guy gets it. There are so many retards thinking they have to do textbooks or take some college course, end up sounding like this because they barely listen and read and instead try to artificially construct shit with their memorized "grammar rules". The truth is the fun way is the way that actually works.
Joshua Lopez
vocab is much more dependent on the setting than the medium. though vns being written can make them a little more wordy/formal than anime, but it's not as huge as comparing a high school vn with a medieval fantasy vn
Xavier Clark
i see, so if i read fantasy vns then i’ll get good at watching fantasy anime? how many vns did you read before you could watch an anime of the same genre without needing english subs
Jordan Cook
I wouldn't take it so literally. fantasy vns will just have a lot of words that don't appear in other works and vice versa. You'll probably see castle or magic in a fantasy setting, but rarely in a modern one. Regardless, vns are mainly just written and don't offer complete practice for how they actually sound. don't expect to go straight from eng subs to raw anime, typically once you get good at reading, you'll use japanese subtitles and pause if you need time to catch up, as you get used to it you become quicker and more able to understand without pausing, then eventually you build up recognition for sounds in practice. To be frank I still don't watch raws all the time because it's easier to watch with english subs. you tend to correct sub mistakes in your head as you hear them, but for the most part having that english translation as a basis makes it much more comfortable. and don't think about it in the number of vns - just read japanese like every day, play some vns read some manga, even jp news sites. Mix it up so you don't exhaust yourself. Expect for it to take years before you're really comfortable with it though
Ayden King
I read through the resources from the DJT at /jp/
Wyatt Cox
meant for
Aiden Morales
wrong
Nathaniel Hernandez
>Many jokes good, they're probably just shitty puns