>betrays everyone all the time
>comings treason multiple times
>all is forgiven in the end
What kind of message is Kishimoto trying to send here?
Believe it
Luis Phillips
Caleb Kelly
*commits treason
fucking autocorrect
James Myers
anime used to be just things happening, not everything needs a deeper message.
>but kishi
naruto is an ideal for world peace, a nice fantasy for the kids to have, nothing more.
Aiden Perez
>society of killers
>wanting to get rid of one of their best killer/ninja with unique special anime ninja powers
Kevin Jenkins
>all is forgiven
They made him marry Sakura
Zachary Reed
>What kind of message is Kishimoto trying to send here?
Criminals are allowed to live so long as they're useful
Andrew Cox
redpilled?
Kevin Jackson
Sasuke should have died at the end of Part 2, and taken his entire clan with him.
Fucker didn't deserve Sarada
Luke Cruz
Not a bad deal, considering he never sees her and Sakura raises his daughter for him
Anthony Rodriguez
>a villain who genuinely wants to change the world for the better, if with extreme methods
>dies
>a villain who doesn't give a fuck about anyone else and is only it it for himself
>survives
What did Kishi mean by this?
Jaxson Collins
Sasuke and Naruto are Kishi's and his brother's self inserts.
Jason Robinson
Madara did nothing wrong
Adrian Martinez
Just like Tobirama
Lucas Diaz
Does his brother literally try to kill him?
Nathaniel Evans
I don't think so
Lincoln Clark
The world is a lost cause because nepotism solves everything.
Andrew Hughes
haha vengeance go brr
Mason Bailey
Just no
Jaxon Edwards
>treason
treason implies loyalty he never said to anyone he was loyal he even told members of hebi they can leave or join him in his quest there is nothing was holding them back from leaving
Levi Adams
He voluntarily joined the Konoha shinobi forces and then not only went AWOL, but actually joined the guy who orchestrated the attack on the village and was responsible for Sandaime's death. That's the definition of treason, hell, he'd be less of a traitor if he joined the Akatsuki at that point
Levi Harris
>He voluntarily joined the Konoha shinobi forces
nope that was the only way he can get combat training so he can kill Itachi, it was means to an end and he said since day 1 and in front of Kakashi
>joined the guy who orchestrated the attack on the village
And? as I said he isn't obligated to follow the rules of the village since he isn't loyal to them
Jayden Clark
>joined the guy who orchestrated the attack on the village
and then ended up killing him
if he came back at that point they would pretend it was all according to keikaku and they told him to do that
Jaxson Morris
>nope that was the only way he can get combat training so he can kill Itachi, it was means to an end and he said since day 1 and in front of Kakashi
"I want to kill my missing nin brother" does not automatically translate to "I will become a missing nin"
>And? as I said he isn't obligated to follow the rules of the village since he isn't loyal to them
Shinobi forces are basically a military, you can't just fuck off the minute you stop feeling loyal, much less join the enemy.
Sasuke's personal feelings do not matter in this instance.
Jason Lopez
Reminder Sasuke has never, for a single moment in the entirety of Naruto from the beginning of part 1 to the end of part 2, been stronger than Naruto, or even gotten close to Naruto's level. Naruto has mercy for Sasuke, first at the Valley of the End, because he can't reconcile his friend trying to kill him and breaking Sakura's vow, and then during their final fight, where he pulls back and keeps his level down, even after being fatigued. Rock Lee could've gotten Sasuke back during his rescue mission, because he'd be less merciful of the weak, feeble Sasuke.
Evan Smith
Sasuke is a fucking legend don't you dare say anything negative against him unless you want to pay the price.
The story should of been called Sasuke instead of Naruto.
Ryder Davis
This, Sasuke was literally BTFO by Naruto in the THIRD chapter.
Joseph Hernandez
>nope that was the only way he can get combat training so he can kill Itachi
It doesn't negate the fact that he enlisted in a military force, and defected to an enemy of that military.
>he isn't obligated to follow the rules of the village since he isn't loyal to them
Yes he was. He was a born citizen of that village and was a soldier in their ranks. He very clearly committed treason against his country, village and his superior officers. Someone who commits treason is called a traitor. The fact that he had zero personal feelings about anything of what he betrayed doesn't mean anything.
Jayden Garcia
That if you look a certain way that people will forgive you for damn near anything.
Owen Edwards
>"I want to kill my missing nin brother" does not automatically translate to "I will become a missing nin"
irrelevant his goal if can't be accomplished in the village he will simply find power elsewhere witch he did
>Shinobi forces are basically a military, you can't just fuck off the minute you stop feeling loyal, much less join the enemy.
why? his goal was never to be hokage or jounin his goal was to kill his brother the military is means to an end it was never treason since he was not loyal in the first place
William Perry
The message is betrayal bad
Had Kaguya not been betrayed by humans, none of the bad things would've happened