>Tools >Plenty of potential uses and setups >Tons of room for outplay or adaptation. >Can endlessly shuffle the same 200-300 tools around while mixing in actual hand-to-hand scenes with the occasional jutsu to keep things interesting. >Levels the playing field >Prevents power level DBZ nonsense >Prevents characters with normal bloodlines from becoming obsolete.
>Jutsu >Each character learns less than 10. >Chakra isn't a solid enough resource for us to understand how it's being used, or how much is available. >Just mindless special effects. >Kekkei Genkai crap >MUH EYES >"My demon fox gives me endless resourcium X for free, rather than teaching me how to trick my opponents!" >Deception and prediction go out the window.
Admit it, you all know Naruto would've been a much better series if tools had been the primary focus in combat.
Yes. I think everyone's aware late Naruto was more about wizards than ninjas.
Zachary Ward
All they had to do was cap the jutsu level to the kage fight with oro and the hokage's at the end of the chunnin exam. That should have been the top one percent of power level of the ninja world, and if everyone was below that, tools would have been practical and on par of ninja jutsu. They should have made sakura a tool user, it would have ironically made her more of a ninja than naruto or sasuke.
Blake Campbell
>They should have made sakura a tool They did.
Andrew Cooper
there really should be a cap to the power of inner energy. it should kill the user or at least affect their lifespan significantly. the fact that some people are just born with god powers really ruins the impact of the story
Jordan Gray
>All they had to do was cap the jutsu level to the kage fight with oro and the hokage's at the end of the chunnin exam. Kino fight, but it's still pretty underwhelming, all things considered. The Third Hokage was at a low point in his life and career. They could've gone much higher with no issues. >They should have made sakura a tool user, it would have ironically made her more of a ninja than naruto or sasuke. Yeah, if Kishimoto would let a character get stabbed outside of special moments, maybe that'd work. However, Tenten kinda shows us exactly how that turns out.
Also, why do they consider her a weapons expert when, 90% of the time, she just summons a bunch of weapons from her scrolls to launch at someone? Does she ever demonstrate proficiency with them?
Anthony Cooper
>Big Bad ends up being the weapon girl because everyone just decided to become Japanese wizards instead
Remember that one Rain Ninja that did the Needle Rain Umbrella thing? that was cool. Or those guys and their chain gauntlets? Cooooool.
>They should have made sakura a tool user I would settle for weapons in general, especially for Shippuden and her retard strength. So little weapon variety in Naruto. Its all Kunai, Throwing Stars and bland blades, outside of a handful of special one of a kind cases.
Sasuke a shit, but his original fighting was awesome. Kakashi provided great scenes too. Same for Tenten, although less so, she mostly just threw a thousand weapons from scrolls each time. Back when jutsus were used more scarcely, it was a lot better. They were like powered-up tools in a sense. Powered-up because they allowed to do things regular tools couldn't, not because they could destroy mountains
Michael Young
>Or those guys and their chain gauntlets? Cooooool. I was JUST thinking about those two. Their weapon was honestly unique and memorable. Well-designed weapons do a lot more for a character (see Zabuza and the Third Hokage) than elemental magic.
Brody Baker
Kakashi pulled something awesome with a bunch of chains hidden in the ground too, I think it was against Pain
Caleb Torres
>Sasuke a shit, but his original fighting was awesome. He tended to incorporate a lot of shuriken and wire techniques, which were a family specialty. During that battle at the Valley of the End, his trick where he bound Naruto to a rock and set the wires aflame should've killed Naruto. He shouldn't have just used a BS No-sell to jump at Sasuke anyways. >Powered-up because they allowed to do things regular tools couldn't, not because they could destroy mountains Temari's involvement in the Tayuya fight marked the beginning of this.
Levi Young
>Temari's involvement in the Tayuya fight marked the beginning of this.
And I think many would agree it was still cool. But perhaps it should be reserved to a few key characters. Back when Jiraiya sent a giant fireball at Orochimaru, it was cool and it made sense. He had summoned a giant toad who spit a massive amount of oil. But past a certain point, after so many escalations, you got a dozen characters who are DBZ-tier. It must be difficult for a shonen writer to tame this escalation, honestly.
Makes me wonder, Guns were shown in Part 1 but they never were used. Pain had rockets and missiles and there was a guy in a filler who had a grenade launcher.
Aaron Evans
I'm pretty sure that's the main difficulty for a Shonen Jump mangaka. Naruto seemed to really lose its ideas fairly early, but was able to march on, unlike Bleach, which got totaled by filler and power leap.
Jaxon Adams
Apparently one of Rinnegan's powers is making anachronistic things
Landon Hughes
Did these weapons actually exist? Seems like something invented by anime or something.
Parker Taylor
Say what you want about the quality of One Piece but it has impressively gone almost 1000 chapters without extreme power creep.
Jeremiah Torres
I know, but normal guns are also canon in narutoverse, it makes me wonder why hasn't anybody raise a army with people with assault rifles. Ninja niggas can't outrun a 5.56 bullet.
Brayden Russell
Does anyone have a gif or image of Sasuke punching Naruto's face in in the first fight? Happens right after this.
anime Kunai are more stylized, but they did exist in real life. the weird thing however is that from my understanding, Kunai knives were used as gardening tools, not as throwing knives or weapons
There's not as much available to help anyone get a consistent idea of how strong the characters are.
Camden Bell
They were both weapons and everyday tools Ninjas posed as farmers and were actual farmers most of the time AKA outside of formal missions. So when the ninja went for the kill and did what ninjas do, they used their everyday tools as to lessen suspicion and also have no need to hide their blades. There are plenty of youtube videos with actual real life ninjas explaining this shit, pretty cool.
Lincoln Cox
The only characters remotely "DBZ Tier" were SO6 Madara, Kaguya, Naruto and Sasuke
Kevin Edwards
>actual real life ninjas sorry to burst your bubble but what you think ninja's are isn't historically accurate at all. here's a good video on it: youtu.be/MU3FOUiguQs
Wyatt Mitchell
>Kunai knives were used as gardening tools, not as throwing knives or weapons
From my understanding real life ninja were assassins, which meant that a lot of the time the actual weapons they used where tools or similar that could be easy disguised as something else. Like, they were much more likely to kill someone with a hammer taken from a blacksmith workshop than with a katana. A knife that is commonly used as gardening tool seem a perfect tool for that.
Andrew Nguyen
>Ninjas posed as farmers >weapons they used where tools that's pretty cool, thanks for the info
