Fate series will never get the ending it deserves and will continue to degrade in quality

Question for more knowledgeable fatefags, is Irisviel as we see her at the end of Fate/Zero and in Unlimited Blade Works just Angra Mainyu using her appearance as a mask to emotionally manipulate Kiritsugu and Illyasviel and Irisviel's consciousness has long since been destroyed, or is that her actual personality having been corrupted by the grail (kind of the impression I got by the end of the end of Fate/Zero episode 22)?
I know some of this is anime-original (namely the UBW scene) and that Irisviel in general is a character made after the original Fate/Stay Night, but surely something in the lore clarifies.

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Cope.
FGO, especially Lostbelt is far better than F/SN and F/Z.

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I mean, Fate Stay Night ended without any real loose ends. Just ignore the rest of the franchise or something.

Them why is the series still going?

People are just coping over the fact that the Fate grand order timeline is near the center of all parallel worlds.

Irisviel ceased to be the moment the greater frail activated. Angry manjew just used her information. The same would have happened to illya, but that never happened in any of the fsn routes cause everything went to shit.

The main casts are in fgo, and their universe are in trouble but guda will fix it.

Imagine actually believing this. I doubt you've even ever read F/SN in the first place.

FSN ended. Everything else is just bonus material and AU shit that can be ignored.

It gave us Abigail, so I'm not complaining.

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Thanks user. Glad to know Irisviel wasn't corrupted and made to hate Kiritsugu.
I imagine then that Angra Mainyu's realization of Kiritsugu's wish wouldn't have even actually brought Irisviel back, but rather a clone of her (though I guess she's already a clone of Justeaze in the first place).

1) Because it prints money
2) Because Fate/Extra proved that they could just make AUs and people will still buy it

That has nothing to do with Fate still going on. It ended with Heaven's Feel and Last Episode. Everything else is just bonus.

Fate/Stay Night is a very definitive ending. Everything else is just prequels and spin offs. There has never been no true sequel to the original and that is for the best.

It got the ending it deserved in Hollow Ataraxia. They just decided to keep going.

Idk, I would have liked a post Sunny Days ending about Shirou, Saber, and Rin at the Clocktower. Maybe crossed with El-Melloi case files. I acknowledge that something like that couldn't be as compelling as FZ and FSN were, since it would be difficult to find a new theme to base strong character arcs around.

I don't know what you retards are complaining about. FSN is already finished, and it's a contained story. It is your choice to continue or leave after finishing FSN.

FGO doesn't even have anything to do with FSN. Even the grail war from FSN isn't canon in FGO.

And I know you've read neither and exist just to make shitty secondary threads

It's retarded zero babbies that never finished the VN.
No, really, anyone with a brain knows the story of fate/stay night is finished and fate always had spinoffs even before extra. It's the retarded newfags that never experienced the original story having a conclusive ending that keep complaining about no ending.

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Kill yourself you fucking crossboard piece of shit.

Wtf are you talking about, it ended in 2006.

I didn't make this thread retard

>He didn't read the VNs
Secondary-kun how's your grinding going in the current gachashit event?

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I was answering OP honestly and it somehow didn't occur to me the very real possibility that OP has solely consumed Fate spinoff/AU material and not the actual FSN story. Of course he would think there's no ending

What a shit this franchise is.