The anime language sure sounds nice. That means it's worth learning, right?

The anime language sure sounds nice. That means it's worth learning, right?

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no

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you're better off learning russian, chinese, or korean.

Rofl. No. Don't learn Chinese. It's a hideous sounding unintuitive mess of a language.

Source: listening to Chinese people

Yeah, not like there's more than one dialect or anything...

Yes, user, if you like it then it's worth learning.

So what? They all sound atrocious.

>dialect
>still believing this shit meme in 2020

yes, then you can play games like pricone

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Any language is worth learning simply so that you can make fun of various people on Zig Forums without them being able to understand.

Well yeah, but if you want to have anything to show other people you will need to have a slip of paper one way or another. Either JLPT N1 or N2, or some overpriced slip of university paper.
Never said it was just to earn shekels (in my case it was actually to get to work in a field I wanted to work in, I took a pay cut on other fields I was looking at because I put satisfaction over shekels), my point was that if you learn Moon in the direction of purely being able to watch anime raws you are going to come off with far less of the language, and a warped view of the language, compared to someone who actually learns Japanese towards the goal of learning the language itself. Think of the easterner who decides they want to watch Cartoon Network (I don't know why they would, but stick with me), so they decide to learn English in the direction of being able to decipher whatever the fuck CalArts grads are spewing out this week. They then consider themselves as having "learned English". They then try to talk to westerners, or read some poetry, or create their own English language content and embarrass themselves because they don't know English, they know how to translate a limited set of English language and slang. I just want to save cunts from that fate.

What did user mean by this?

Broadly, speaking, は emphasises what came before it (so わたしは is putting the emphasis on "I"), while が puts emphasis on what comes after it (so ちちテントがだいすきです puts the emphasis on "love"). Switching to using kanji (sorry user, it looks messy in just hiragana and katakana) you would get the sentence "私は乳テントが大好きです。" which puts the emphasis on "I LOVE" and the thing that you love is boob tents.
You're still going to make it user.

>if you learn Moon in the direction of purely being able to watch anime raws you are going to come off with far less of the language, and a warped view of the language, compared to someone who actually learns Japanese towards the goal of learning the language itself
That's what reading visual novels and light novels is for.

The embarrassing way I learned japanese:
So I wanted to learn japanese because i was a total weeb and wanted to learn. 恥ずかしい～!
I started myself on a sliding scale of difficulty. First, I translated hentai. It's pretty easy. There's some light dialogue in conversational japanese, mostly hiragana. A few kanji here and there, and those are mostly proper names, places, et cetera. Also plenty of squishy noises. Strangely, plenty of puns and wordplay.

I moved on from there to regular manga. Mostly hiragana, some katakana, peppered here and there with kanji. The more sophisticated or mature the manga, the more complex the work became.
From that point, I moved on to novels and newspapers and that was pretty boss.

Now I make my money doing EN to JP translations. There's lots of novels and stuff that get released in america that take forever to get translated and released in japan.
My clientele are alot more polite than the weeb trash crowd, you never get OMG TRANSLATIONS WHEN from them.

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>if you want to have anything to show other people
Why would you want to do that if you aren't trying to get hired?
>if you learn Moon in the direction of purely being able to watch anime raws you are going to come off with far less of the language
Not really. I mean yeah, if you're satisfied by mostly understanding slice of life anime dialogue then your Japanese isn't actually that good and you're not going to learn more. But if you're satisfied with that, so what?
And everyone knows from talking to immigrants that even living in a country and interacting with natives daily for decades doesn't get people to learn the language. Because again if you're satisfied with just about understanding most of what's said to you you'll stop bothering to learn more.

That's the beginner's textbook explanation you could get by just pressing "I'm feeling lucky" on Google.
There are more complicated use cases.

Don't worry about it, in three years you'll get a feel for it. Just keep reading.

i have been wondering, is it worth it learn japanese to earn shekels.
Technically salary seems to be higher in europe or new zealand. Plus you dont have to deal with karoshi or bowing to boss or the high cost of living in japan

To some extent I will give you that. Again, I was not meaning to sound like I was coming off as combative, because a factor in encouraging me to learn Japanese was in enjoying raws (mainly for manga, books and vidya) but all I was getting at was that anons need to go in to learn the language, and just learning enough to read manga raws is going to teach them in the direction of bad habits and not understanding how the language is generally spoken.
I still consider myself shit at the language despite conversational/correspondence fluency and being able to read at about a high school level, but it is always a work in progress. The more anons learn languages the better desu.
Maybe you want to actually talk to other people? The Japanese tend to dislike interacting with foreigners because we are cringe as fuck to them, but the quickest way to out yourself as a foreigner is to go around effectively speaking like a Chūnibyō, which is what the average "I just learned it to read raws" ends up sounding like (and I mean the real world 8th grader cringe, not the pop culture stereotype that people now relate to the term).
I will say that if that is ALL that anons want to get from it, go ahead I guess. I just want to caution that instead of learning a bizarre creole form of a language to do one or two activities, their time might be better spent actually learning the language so that they can do those one or two activities plus a shitload more.
If he isn't understanding the difference then I think a beginner's explanation is in order. He said he didn't know the difference, not that he didn't understand the finer points of context on their usage. If he wanted a more in depth explanation I'm sure that between all of us here we could tell him, I was just trying to put it in as basic language as I could.

"Is it worth it" has a bit of a split answer.
Do you work/want to work in a field that has very high Japanese market involvement, or do you wish to work specifically in Japan?
Do you have reasons beyond just shekels to learn the language?
Are you comfortable dealing with the Japanese culturally, for possibly the rest of your working life? (like with Mandarin, once employers know that you are "the guy that can speak Japanese" you will be roped into all dealings with the Japanese)
If you answered yes to all three, it might be worth it. I put strong emphasis on the "reasons other than just work" one though. If you were pure shekels then anything from Hindi to Mandarin to Spanish to Arabic might serve you better, but I had no interest in those languages or cultures, so I went down the Japanese route.

>Maybe you want to actually talk to other people?
I don't even want to do that in English.
I'm not really convinced that's a risk for anyone with an IQ over room temperature. You're not going to talk about chuuni shit because chuuni shit isn't going to come up. A lot of anime dialogue is weird, but it's generally weird in pretty obvious ways. My experience of anime and manga has been entirely transferable to other sources of Japanese like regular TV and books. If anything delivery is the biggest difference.