Why are people even excited for new Shounen arcs anymore? It's just going to be MC saving the day and the same old cheerleading squad on the sidelines.
>Rival - DAMMIT! He's leapt past me again!!
>Wise friend - Amazing MC. Only you can fight him.
>Closest friend - Get him bro! You're number one!
>Surpassed jobbers - Could this really be MC? He's in a different dimension to us!
>Recurring jobber - That's our MC!
>Everyone : MC!!! DO IT!!!!
that's what people pay for
>Why are people even excited for new Shounen arcs anymore?
Underages, spics and the mentally ill.
>He thinks people are ever gonna get tired of the heroes' journey
>He thinks people are just gonna stop getting excited over stories humanity has been using for thousands of years
>He thinks any story is original
>He thinks there's only one generation of people
You must accept that we have all this cringe excitation during the final battle when the MC thinks to his friends with flashbacks and has a zenkai after this, with some shitty transformation or increase his power level against the villain.
This
Only one of these two posts is correct.
You can be reductive with any genre.
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Whoa whitey, you shouldn't hate yourself like that by calling your people mentally ill.
forgot to mention that these groups often overlap, as we can see here >208491632
The same logic applies to all stories that rely on building suspense. At this point everything has become so routine that we all know what is going to happen. We're practically programmed to respond to cues that build up suspense despite knowing with absolute certainty what will happen.
So what do we do about it?
Because shonen appeals to 10-18 y/os of which new ones appear every year to consume it.
Why should anything be done about it? Personally I watch anime for the cute girls and fun hijinks, not because I expect quality story-telling.
Fair enough, but that way of consuming media is not for me t-b-h. If I'm going to invest my time in a story, I expect to challenge me in some way or another, I don't want a passive experience.
Then read a book. Anime isn't for you.
That doesn't happen in every battle shonen
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Try Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu
Oh wow. Someone with a working brain.
vete a la mierda gringo
I bet the next arc of mashle is gonna be much more comedy focused, it will alternate between action and gags each arc
I've been doing just that for the past few years. I haven't watched anime aside from a handful of movies in a very long time.
You need to become able to appreciate "genericness". Yeah, battle shonen are usually predictable, so you need to focus on the details.
why should I be complacent with low-quality writing? As I said to the other user, I can respect watching something like that for "cute girls and fun hijinks", since he seems to acknowledge the flaws of whatever he watches, but he likes watching them anyway. It's just that I have a mentality different from his.
>why should I be complacent with low-quality writing?
Did I say low-quality writing anywhere in my post? I simply said that the main structure isn't everything.
>Generic =/= bad writing
>Predictable =/= bad writing
>Simple =/= bad writing
You need to understand this to appreciate battle shonen
Enough! Enter CHADren!
I agree with only one of your three statements. Perhaps we have different standards for what good writing is because we look for different things in a story. If a story will not positively challenge me in some way, then to me, it's not a good story. If it is generic and predictable, it means that it's old and tired, and has been recycled too many times to be considered engaging. Now, I agree that just because a story is simple doesn't mean it's bad. Perhaps it only tackles one topic of discussion, and if it does it in a rational, compelling way, then it has achieved its purpose satisfyingly. Not every story has to tackle multiple topics at once, and offering commentary on several fronts. And a story does that does not mean that it's good either. It's all about being compelling and nuanced. A simple story can be those things, and a complex story isn't always that.
and offer commentary*
And a story that does just that does not automatically make it good either*
I hate to break it you, but there are other shounen besides bnha and black clover
>If a story will not positively challenge me in some way, then to me, it's not a good story.
So, for exemple, "Snow White" isn't a good story for you, right?
>It's all about being compelling and nuanced.
And this can be applied to generic or predictable stories, like romcoms and battle shonen.
For example in romcoms you know form the start that the MC and the FMC will get together, but how they get together is where the story is.
Because the narrative principle behind them has been around forever and your pretentious ass being mad about it won't change that.
Cope.
Black Clover is unironically a good shonen what op said happened only 1 time and with some variations.
not him but snow white is fucking shit
>So, for exemple, "Snow White" isn't a good story for you, right?
I think I know where you might be going with this. Demographics. No, I don't think Snow White is a good story for children either.
>And this can be applied to generic or predictable stories, like romcoms and battle shonen.
>For example in romcoms you know form the start that the MC and the FMC will get together, but how they get together is where the story is.
Nuanced? Yes, a generic/predictable story can be nuanced, but this is a very rare case, since these two qualities and lack of nuance almost always go hand-in-hand. Compelling? I have to disagree. Stories like that don't personally compel me.
>I dont want a passive experience while doing something passive
It's a passive experience to you because you've only been having a passive experience up til now. If you think watching a film or reading a book is a passive activity, then you simply haven't watched/read enough to know what's out there. It's a very mentally engaging experience, and you've been limiting yourself to non-engaging forms of it.
It's a passive activity to you*
>I think I know where you might be going with this. Demographics. No, I don't think Snow White is a good story for children either.
It was just a simple question. You can change "Snow White" with any of the "classic" stories for children.
>Nuanced? Yes, a generic/predictable story can be nuanced, but this is a very rare case, since these two qualities and lack of nuance almost always go hand-in-hand.
But it can happen. You just need to search more.
As an experiment try looking at the MCs' dreams of a couple of battle shonen. These dreams look the same only on the surface.
>Compelling? I have to disagree. Stories like that don't personally compel me.
This is on you. For exemple I don't like teen dramas so I don't watch them.