Plot hole in the very first chapter

>plot hole in the very first chapter

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Dude, Shanks clearly wanted to theach Luffy a lesson, LMAO!

Yes, literally. You people who still complain about this are stupid.

>Muh shanks should be invincible meme even though he wasn't even a Yonko at the time

Powerlevel faggotry doesn't have much to do with plot holes.
At worst, you can call it an inconsistency, if even that.

Oda didn't plan on Shanks losing his arm, it was his editor's idea. And it being the very first chapter of One Piece when it didn't have popularity and Oda being a literal nobody at the time couldn't possibly challenge his editor's suggestion.

Why do I even fucking bother? You will dismiss my post as "HURRRR ODA FANBOY! COCKSUCKER DURR HURRRR!" anyway. Fucking nigger.

Why do these powerlevelfags have to ruin everything? We have no idea how strong/weak Shanks was from then relative to now. We have no idea why he did what he did and can only speculate due to him having relatively NO screentime. Why can't you fucking retards just let the fucking manga run its course and then criticize it?

>OH NO I HAVE TO CRITICIZE IT NOW I CAN'T WAIT X YEARS FOR IT TO END OR FOR POINTS TO BE EXPLAINED AND CRITICIZE IT THEN!!!!!!!

it's been 20 fucking years and we still don't know how strong Shanks, Mihawk and Dragon are.


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That's how you know that the story is fucking KINO.

Shanks is a yonko
Mihawk is the world's strongest swordsman
Dragon is the most wanted criminal on the seas

It's pretty obvious where they stand if you're not stupid

>Shanks is a yonko

And?
Big Mom is deff weaker than Kaido... what about Shanks?

>Mihawk is the world's strongest swordsman

-He has never used a named attack
-Has never fought anyone strong on-screen

We still don't know how strong he is.
This dude is even more mysterious than Shanks.


>Dragon is the most wanted criminal on the seas

How the fuck did he summon the storm at Loguetown?
Could he 1vs1 Akainu?
Why the fuck did he send his jobber squad alone to the Holy Land? Whitebeard came to Marineford with himself and all his forces, why didn't he join them aswell?

It's not a plot hole but it's stupid. It's something Oda does through out the manga. Cool for the sake of cool. You're seeing the problem because you're applying logic, those that defend it are turning their brains off and enjoying those cool scenes.

is the boichi ace manga raws out anywhere or was those pages just previews

>Big Mom is deff weaker than Kaido
She is an island buster though.
>Has never fought anyone strong on-screen
He trained Zoro.

Stop avoiding the real questions.
I asked you how strong Mihawk is and you answered me with:

>lol he trained Zorro (offscreen)

>How the fuck did he summon the storm at Loguetown?
Why do you say he summoned it?

I'd say Shanks and Mihawk are pretty easy to gauge. Shanks and his crew seem to be fairly Roger Pirates-esque, in that they're strong but fairly small as a crew; a crew of 30-50 can't be on the same level as the armies and allied crews of other Yonko without at least the top people being absolute monsters in strength (which we know to be true of the Roger Pirates themselves, with at least Roger and Rayleigh, and likely Gaban).
Mihawk is widely considered the greatest swordsman, has one of the 12 best swords in the world (which we now know to be permanently blackened from Haki), and both completely lacks a crew and yet is free to do as he pleases. *Exactly* how strong Mihawk is may still be a mystery, but he's clearly a force to be reckoned with, if only because his sword is so powerful.

Dragon is something of a mystery. That's at least because Sabo, his right hand man, is arguably not too strong, at least judging by his bounty. On the other hand, Sabo fairly easily defeated Jesus Burgess, but the power level of the Blackbeard Pirates is a whole 'nother bag of worms. Even excluding Sabo, the Revolutionary Army doesn't seem stocked with strong fighters; it's not terribly surprising that they'd lose to two Admirals at Levely, which is something I'd doubt any collection of "Yonko Commanders" would do. Dragon strikes me as being Admiral-tier and very intelligent/crafty, not as being a huge fighter. And even then, we've -- at most -- seen him deal with a young/weak Smoker and heard that he escaped from the Blackbeard Pirates' onslaught on Baltigo. Dragon being "world's worst criminal" seems more so because of his supposed plans and being anti-Celestial Dragon, versus being a true physical threat to the world, a la Roger or Whitebeard.

>I can't wait AT LEAST 5 more years, according to Oda
Yes.

Are you serious?

>Dragon strikes me as being Admiral-tier and very intelligent/crafty,

How come that everyone in his family is a Goku-tier retard but he for some reason is very intelligent?
Did he eat the Brain-Brain no mi?

If so, then why didn't he adapt his story accordingly?

Then oda didn't plan everything from the start like his cocksuckers say.

Speedreader, re-read the Shanks and Whitebeard dialogue. This time slower. He already had fights with Mihawk that were talked about. He himself says he "bet" his arm.

Yes. I haven't read OP in a while I might have forgotten

First of all, he wasn't a Yonko back then.
Also, if post time skip Luffy was injuried by Hody, then that scene seems logic to me.

The Dragon/Garp dynamic must of been interesting. I can almost hear the shut up dad.

Also Wano is so shit that another thread has to exist.

This unironically.

This.
I fucking hate powerlevelfags.

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source on this?
I would say the editor did the right thing then, it wouldn't have had half the impact otherwise.

>plot hole in the very first chapter
Exactly. Fruit users are supposed to lose all their strength under water, and also they are supposed to be as heavy as an anvil. There is no way Luffy could be moving and splashing, let alone float.

This is one of the most stupid dialogues in the whole series.

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I rember Nami saying that a storm was coming hours before Dragon arrived