Higurashi 2020

Why they're making a remake? What was wrong with the original anime?

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Read the VN and find out, or at least the first chapter.

Short answer is they botched everything. Basically everything was done better in the VN. Imagine DEEN's Fate to Ufotable's Fate. The difference is like that.

They removed a lot of the character development, drama, heartwarming scenes, stripped the tragic scenes of their emotional heartbreak and focused on edginess instead (Shion pissing herself). They removed almost entire episodes worth of story from the arcs, especially the pre-Wata sections.

They messed up the mystery, either making some things too obvious and clear or failing to setup other important things.

The dialogue is much weaker compared to the VN; many suspenseful reveals aren't delivered nearly as strongly.

The mystery, characters, story, suspense, horror, tragedy, and comedy are all done better in the VN.

If you are an anime only watcher, please don't say "But the anime was good, so it's not possible the VN is better even though I don't know what I'm missing out on". Higurashi has the potential to be a top ~25 anime, anything short of that is not a "good adaptation".

i read the vn, the sol shit is boring, tatarigoroshi is a fucking slog, k1 acting like a retard didn't help either, onikakushi is not that different, they mostly fudged the answer arcs

>The mystery, characters, story, suspense, horror, tragedy, and comedy are all done better in the VN.
Isn't it like this with every adaptation? Is new TV gonna be more true to the VN in that regard? I know that VN is rather massive and it's really hard to put everything in the show if even 50 episodes wasn't enough.

The solution is to stop adapting stuff that is the antithesis of the format being adapted to. This goes for adaptations of manga too. They're almost never going to result in anything with actual quality. The advertisement potential is really the only upside and nobody on Zig Forums is involved in the production of either the source or the anime and so it shouldn't matter to anyone on here.

>the sol shit is boring, tatarigoroshi is a fucking slog
Pretty much this, Ryukishi needs to get his fucking pacing under control and learn how to invest you in characters WITHOUT having to spend like a week of real-time on literal nothing conversations.

>a week of real-time
Tatarigoroshi is like 16 hours at most, you're just a despairingly slow reader.

There's a new mobage

pleb status: filtered

Name one literally nothing conversation.

Advertising for the new gacha without making a gacha adaptation.

Higurashi VN is a 6/10 at best, read more EOP-kun.

??? higurashi is one of the stereotypical pleb's favorite VNs though

While he does say that it's great and a good adaptation would be one of the best anime, most of what he's saying has nothing to do with that. Just that the anime was trash. The VN could be a 6/10 and the anime could still be trash that doesn't match up to that 6/10.

Well ofc, VN adaptations are just pointless.

Threadly reminder that Rose Guns Days is better than anything in the WTC series and is Ryuukishi's true magnum opus.

>everything was done better in the VN
Typical VN fag. The DEEN anime, at least the first season, was very enjoyable. Got mixed feelings about the answer arcs tho.

Yeah, the new one is looking to be much more faithful. For example, Onikakushi and Watangashi seem they will be getting 6 and 7 episodes, whereas in DEEN's they only got 4 and 4. And the scenes in the trailer themselves show that the scenes are much more 1:1 to the VN, and the dialogue matches too instead of being rewritten and using worse wording.

I would have been even happy with just 5 and 6 episodes, but we're getting 6 and 7 which will be enough to very thoroughly cover everything important, at quite the leisurely pace.

The VN is long, but it's not too long, especially if you cut down things like the game segments, which would no doubt go much faster in anime format. The VN also has some pretty redundant narration/dialogue at times (things that go in circles and repeats the same points before moving on).

I haven't read the S;G or Clannad VNs yet, and I know some routes/stories were cut out, but I think it is probably safe to say the anime adaptations were good. They are some of the best anime out there, and the stories felt cohesive and not rushed, even if I may be missing out on some things. DEEN's Higurashi however has lots of problems you can notice just from being an anime only watcher, so that's the difference.

I'm not asking for an adaptation to cover every little monologue and inner narration, but it should cover at least the important things, not cut so much that character motivations or personalities change (Shion especially, but Kei is also made to look much dumber). For example in Onikakushi, they cut out almost an entire episode worth of content when they went to the Watanagashi festival, which provided not only crucial information to figuring out the mystery but also very heartwarming moments that is what makes the tragedy of that chapter actually work. Most episodes covered an average of ~3 VN chapters (each Chapter has ~15-20 chapters), but that episode covered ~6 just to get to the Rena eavesdropping cliffhanger quicker.

You say that but Higurashi is one of the only 3 VNs I've read, and I always prefer anime first. Big difference from S;G and Clannad anime and their VNs, to Higurashi and its VN.

S1 of higurashi is just wonky. I appreciate the effort but the mystery part was done poorly.

Also one more thing, is that DEEN's combined episode length of S1 and S2 could have been just enough, but since DEEN didn't know if it could get a S2, they decided to cover 6 chapters in S1. And because of skipping over some things, they had to add a few anime-original episodes to the beginning of S2. If those episodes were distributed across Onikakushi, Watanagashi, and Tatarigoroshi, and made them 5 5 and 6 episodes instead of 4 4 and 5, it would have made a very big difference, in order to be able to cover a reasonably minimal amount of the story. 4 4 and 5 was just cutting a very harsh amount.

I would have been happy enough with 51 episodes (5+6+7+2+6+6+8+11), cutting a little but being still a good representation of the VN, but it seems like they're going for a super faithful+thorough adaptation now with 6+7+8+3 for S1, and based off that pacing they might do 6+7+8+12, for a total of 57 episodes. Higurashi VN is a little longer than Clannad, so this checks out.

I don't have a problem with an anime remake, but I'm not exactly sure who it is for.
I've already read the VN's and watched the old anime, and as a murder mystery series I don't have much interest in retreading the same story and already solved puzzles in a slightly different format for the third time.

Well, it also doesn't help that I watched the anime again last year.

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Probably for zoomers who don't watch old stuff because it's old. I'm kinda interested in watching a different approach and go back to Hinamizawa since I can always watch just for characters but I'm not sure how to feel about new designs.

You've been filtered from VNs

What's a good VN then retard-kun?
What are your 9s and 10s?

Muramasa
Cross Channel
Musicus

Shitton of gen z already watched Higurashi. People don't act like pre 2010 anime don't exist.

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dies irae
kikougai

Should I watch the original before this?

Yeah it's good and has a really great opening.

If you haven't seen or read Higurashi yet, then no, watch the new one. It's very very likely it'll be much better. (And if you're skeptical then just wait it out and see what people think).

If you watch the old one it'll spoil all the mysteries for you, and the fun of Higurashi is not knowing what the answers are.

What are some fun things to do with Rika Furude?

for people who shit on DEEN (like me)

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