Do the japenese have a boner for conformity or something? Eren, Orochimaru, Bondrewd...

Do the japenese have a boner for conformity or something? Eren, Orochimaru, Bondrewd, all of these characters weren't satisfied with the status quo and went beyond it yet all seem to be treated as villains. At the same time we have characters like lee that get shit on for trying to better their own standing or improve themselves. Do the Japanese think that if you're not following the rest you're either a villain or an immature retard? Made In Abyss doesn't really suffer from this problem but it's what made me notice how few "rebellious" or at the very least independant characters exist in manga and anime.

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Shut the fuck up, retard.

>Do the japenese have a boner for conformity or something?

This has been discussed a thousand times, and the answer is yes. Blame it on cultural (fuck Confucius) and societal values.

Cool anime/manga thread you started there, bozo. Take your meds.

>stable orderly society bad
>burning cities full of crime and chaos good

>He lives in a society so shitty that the people who want to change things are the bad guys

Shut up SMT Lawfag

>The world outside of Paradis is good
>The Abyss is good
>The elemenal nations are good

Bondrewd is literally evil what the fuck are you talking about

>Do the japenese have a boner for conformity or something?
Yes. But there are exceptions like pic related.

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The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

suck my dick chaosnigger

Yes. The series in your pic is one of the better examples.

>Bondrewd
>weren't satisfied with the status quo and went beyond it

What the fuck are you even talking about.
Bondrewd is a Dr.Mengele who has zero empathy and would do anything for his scientific aims. He doesn't "hate others", he is not "evil", he just lacks any morals and empathy. That's why it is such an unnerving villain.

Because the white whistles saw the status quo that was humanity and chose to go past it. But as I said, I didn't really think his potrayal was a problem in Made In Abyss, it just made me aware of the trope.

>saw the status quo that was humanity
>chose to go past it

Yeah dude, you just forgot the part about experimenting with little children and turning even his own daughter into a cartridge

Depends, when people are old teenagers ~ young they tend to be rebellious, but as time goes on and they age they tend to start to be chained by society in a way that they just give up.

And what part about abbandoning your humanity did you not understand? To reiterate, I'm not saying that Bondrewd is a shitty character, he's one of my favorite characters in manga and MIA is my favorite manga.

I'm just saying that if a character in a manga or an anime are independant they are usually a "negative" character.

It's almost like a foreign power occupied them for half a century and transformed the national consciousness into something subservient.

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>Eren, Orochimaru, Bondrewd all of these characters weren't satisfied with the status quo and went beyond it yet all seem to be treated as villains
Yes, user, believe it or not most villains are people who are either trying to change the status quo or who did change the status quo in the past. That's what we call "doing something" and it's generally required to make you a villain. You're fucking autistic.

Why can't a hero try to change something?

They can.

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they do user. i think you're intentionally focusing on specific examples in order to shitpost.

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Bondrewd is fully supported by the Delving Guild. In fact, he's supported by pretty much everyone;
>He is the sole reason Delvers can survive on the 5th Layer for long periods of time
>He is learning more on the 5th layer than anyone else
>Is generating massive amounts of power
>Produces relics on an industrial scale
>Most of the Praying Hands are assassins/people who hated him who were convinced into joining his side by charisma checks or else him showing them his progress

People may hate Bondrewd's methods but he's considered a pioneer in the field and is openly supported by many of the people who are aware of him, even if they hate him behind closed doors.

Not only that, White Whistles giving up their humanity to persue the Abyss seems to be true of all of them so far. Even Ozen, the least affected, has crippled her body with Relics and via Abyss exposure.

>live peacefully
>suddenly some asshole decides that society should be changed to fit his desired vision
>not a villain

By this logic the Eloi should be content.

>Do the Japanese have a boner for conformity or something?

Where do you think the phrase "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down." comes from?

Japanese are the definition of normie conformie

Bondrewd made a child beg for her death, I don't know what's a villain for (You) user

Japan has always had a conformity culture but it oscillates according to the time. There are times when people rise but later come back to "normalcy". It's a cycle. There was a period from the 50s to the early 70s when Japanese people were very rebellious because the same people from before the war were still in power but they couldn't change the country and they gave up. During the last 20 years, the extreme right has been in power and otakus are far right nationalists and they portray far right ideology

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Zig Forums is not a Japanese board. Zig Forums knows nothing about Japan aside from fiction. Eren is treated as a villain because he acts like a villain. You know like killing innocent civilians. I am not even saying what he did was wrong, but if you expect people to treat him like some kinda hero and praise him, then you are retarded.