>Cool devices that brings a lot of potential utility to a fight. >Get completely forgotten about in favor of everyone and their mom having Haoshoku Haki and the destined savor plot-line
Why did Oda abandon fun elements like this? The right person should be able to hold their own using dials only.
Dials have the same problem with sea stone in the series. They have this false scarcity that make them irrelevant Meanwhile, devil fruits are rare, EVERYBODY has one!
Justin Gutierrez
That's bullshit though. Haoshoku Haki is suppose to be the rarest thing ever and yet everyone has it now. Same goes for Haki in general.
At a certain point it stops being interesting and becoming DBZ level power creep. Basically anyone w/o haki is fodder now. Anyone without Haoshoku haki can't even bother to compete with anyone that has it. It's like how irrleevant everyone become once Super Saiyan become a thing.
Haki was a mistake. The strawhats should have just looked for seastone weapons and Zoro should have been the designated Logia exterminator with a seastone blade.
Without Haki luffy would be useless against Logia and you can't have second most powerful taking on the most power (Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji)
Brayden Price
But Nai's current clima tact is based of off a mix of Dials and Usopp's botany
Blake Ortiz
Oh cool the weakest stawhat is using this technology that literally has infinite potential. Think of someone like Wyper, but New World level tier using dials.
Jaxon Hall
Maybe instead of making logia's all gods, Oda should have given them weaknesses like Crocodile (water) or Enel (rubber) Those 2 stick out like sore thumbs compared to the rest of the logia.
Brayden Foster
Kuma should've sent Usopp to a Sky Island instead of Nami to learn more about dials and learn how to tinker with them to make them eve more useful Him using dials as well as a variety of other items made his fights interesting, imagine of instead of plant based shit he shot out small dials the size of his pellets with the impact of dials that can absorb attack damage even coaded with haki There are so many tools in the Pirate world that should've gone to both Nami and Usopp to make them both have more of a chance in battle
Brandon Thomas
I mean I'm sure he can asspull something for the others. Water makes no fucking sense against sand, but it's still there. Heat with Aokiji (Sanji can stop being useless and use his leg), glass vs Kizaru, and ice vs Akainu.
Now that you mention, wtf was even the point of sending him to a plant based training place? The guy was crafty, using technology and gimicks to make stuff. How the fuck does it make sense for him to have plant powers?
>Haoshoku Haki is suppose to be the rarest thing eve It's one in a million. If the world population is at least a billion then a 1000 people would have it. Makes sense that every big player in the new world would have it. It has nothing to do with power creep either, Haoshoku doesn't make you stong, it just represents the type of person you are. Plenty of strong people that don't rely primarily on haki exist.
Henry Morales
I dropped this shit as soon as Haki was introduced. Did I do good?
Nicholas Reed
On the one hand I want to agree, on the other, I don't want characters like Roger or Shanks to be powerful just because they had an OP devil fruit.
Colton Sanders
SenileDA is creatively bankrupt
Josiah Young
No, haki barely changed anything.
Jack Carter
>If the world population is at least a billion We don't know shit about the population of OP
>Makes sense that every big player in the new world would have it. No it doesn't it's a gimick that was introduced to quickly knock out cannon fodder instead of actually dealing with it.
>Plenty of strong people that don't rely primarily on haki exist. Anyone who is important or strong has it. It's Supersaiyan. Haki users that don't have it that face Haki users that have it always lose.
The fact of the matter is it would make alot more sense for a handful of people to have it and everyone else relying on seastone. Regardless to how rare it is, every Nation's government would have mined it to protect themselves from gods like Logia users.
Yes you did. It's basically Supersaiyan. Anyone who doesn't have it is fodder. Everyone new bad guy introduced has it.
Bentley Lewis
The peope who still read this after Haki shit was introduced are literal cucks.
Angel Baker
It is, One Piece is nearly finished though so everybody is culminating in a location where most of the people who wield it happen to be. There aren't many devil fruit users outside of the grand line just like there aren't many HH users outside of Yonkou, their elite crews, elite ranking members of the government and veterans who were Yonkou level at one point.
Chase Cruz
>Haki users that don't have it that face Haki users that have it always lose. The snake sisters lost to luffy Vergo lost to law Katakuri also lost to luffy Crackers defeat had nmothing to do with Haki Haki isn't a super power up, it's just an extra set of abilities. >No it doesn't it's a gimick that was introduced to quickly knock out cannon fodder instead of actually dealing with it. Be that as it may, it's useless against people near the same level as you. Calling it a super Saiyan type power-up is dimb. It's not like haoushoku users can only fight haoushoku users. >The fact of the matter is it would make alot more sense for a handful of people to have it and everyone else relying on seastone. Haoshoku has nothing to do with seastone or regular haki. It ahs no bearing on hitting Logia. Anyone can learn regular haki if they train enough. Makes sense that people of higher levels would train it. Seastone is a very limited resource and most nations don't have access to it.
Angel Richardson
Why does new world feel so fucking small compared to grand line
Nathan Moore
>Vergo lost to law Law literally stated that his haki was stronger than Vergo's and that's why he was able to cut him so easily.
>Katakuri also lost to Luffy
Did you speedread this fight? Katakuri lost because Luffy matched his speed with g4 snake-man, a haki based power-up, and slight precog, another haki powerup.
>Crackers defeat had nothing to do with Haki
It did. Cracker lost because he couldn't pierce g4 tankman's haki with his sword and got sucked with the rubber.
Jordan Davis
Not sure. When did the world stop being a whacky Popeye adventure/exploration series and turn into a samuria/power levels battle shonen?
Logan Allen
When Haki was introduced. The last time we had anything interesting happen where the gang felt like they had to actually put up a fight was Marineford.
>Law literally stated that his haki was stronger than Vergo's Room has nothing to with Haki. >a haki based power-up Headcanon >Cracker lost because he couldn't pierce g4 tankman's haki Cracker could easily pierce gear 4th haki. Tankman didn't have stronger haki, it was just bulkier. Also it didn'[t matter whether cracker could pierce tankman or not. He lost the moment his biscuits became useless and he had to come out.
Eli Morales
Someone skipped wholecake.
Joshua Nelson
The "weakest straw hats" are literally capable to solo entire army of people with just a single attack (which usually isn't even their strongest one), so I wouldn't shit on them so much if I was in you
Brody Perez
Ah, a fellow speedreader, I see.
Mason Gutierrez
It's still as whacky as always. The samurai is just the recent arc. Powerlevels work the same as ever in that there really aren't any concrete levels..
Luis Gutierrez
Conqueror's Haki was a mistake. All the other forms are fine, Observation Haki was hinted at all the way back in Alabasta and Armament Haki literally needed to exist or else every Logia would be completely invulnerable.
Justin Nelson
>the weakest stawhat Usopp is almost solely responsible for the victory at Dressrosa and he literally had a higher bounty than Luffy at one point
Robert Brooks
Conqueror's works very well with the series thematically.
Brayden Foster
>headcannon It's not. G4 is fully based on CoA haki and the precog was CoO haki at max.
>Cracker could easily pierce gear 4th haki See pic related
Seastone literally drains the strength of fruit users that touch it. I know this sounds autistic but having everyone wear gloves all the time so they can hold weapons is gay. also having everybody use weapons is gay. leave that shit to Smoker.
Brody Bell
I wish usopp Incorporated dials into his fighting style, like the luffy fight. Feel like its a missed opportunity to make him one of the most unique fighters in the series.
James Walker
You mean the thing produced in Wano?
Nathaniel Gray
Usopp's bounty never came close to Luffy's. Luffy's was 100m after alabasta, Usopps was 30m after enies. Luffy was at 300m post enies, which is higher than Usopp's 200m post dressrosa.
Nolan Morris
You mean the wano that had been producing it for thousands of years before Kaido?
Easton Thompson
People didn't forget about seastone, it's WG/Navy technology and they haven't been relevant since at least Doflamingo.
Ian Baker
So are we not gonna mention that dials have in fact been used post-ts?
Nicholas Miller
so oda was retarded for giving everyone logia fruits when they are supposed to be super rare got it.