Long-Runners

how do you feel about long-running series? When I say long-running, I mean those manga that have lasted near a decade or more and seem to have no ending in sight.
Personally, having been burned by indefinite hiatuses and cancellations before or the mangaka just getting sick and/or dying, I wish more series could just have a definitive and sastifying early ending, especially if the alternative is things being dragged out for more money and being rushed to an end when sales start drying up.

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>JoJo
Honestly, I'm surprised no one else has tried the generational gimmick like this manga

>definitive and satisfying early ending
already got one

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Jojo's weird and a little jank, I can't imagine any other manga doing it in the same way that it has and managing to make it this far

Right? It's done quite well, so each arc feels fresh, and really can be taken on it's own. You can also kill people off much easier. Araki really hit gold with JOJO

Some work, some don't.
It works for One Piece, it doesn't work for bleach.
Episodic series like Detective Conan can go on as long as they want.

nope. wrong.

I like the fact that through Araki's multi-part storytelling, its harder to find people that outright hate JoJo. They should have at least one part they were satisfied with.
>no argument

How do you pick up a long running series that's in hiatus stasis? Just read it slowly?

exactly. It has all the benefits of a long-running, established storyline, with none of the usual baggage weighing it down. You're never gonna get to the point where there's nowhere left to go, since each protagonist has his/her own goals.

horrible manga. horrible anime. ruined many many peoples lives. many of my friends lives. anyone who would promote that shit needs shot

It was an ingenious way to not fall down conventional shonen pitfalls
You seems like you got filtered by the shitty fanbase. You okay there?

Depends on how much potential it has. If the plot is simple then I'm cool with the series being short and sweet but if the world is complex and intriguing, I'd want the series to go on much longer.

>The best on going action series

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Wan piss is the worst!!!

Most things I prefer a little shorter but honestly I prefer having some long series to read every week. It's nice having that consistency to read along side short things that'll be gone and forgotten quickly.

I don't want series to last forever but I also don't think all series should end before 10 volumes like some people. 25-30 volumes is generally about when something starts to feel too long to me. The feeling is probably less if I'm reading something as it comes out. I've been reading One Piece since the early 00s but other than that the longest manga I've completed was Ranma at 38 volumes.

I think they're fine as long as there's an actual story to tell. That's hardly ever the case, of course.

Golden Kamui is nowhere near a long runner though, its barely 6 years old

Doing the generation stuff is ridicolously risky bc its a massive shift in whatever you were doing. You can easily make your audience feel betrayed and people nowadays grow very attached to their favorite characters, if you off them or put them aside it can make them drop it
Jojo pulled it off, but it started doing so over 30 years ago and now its its whole thing, pretty much no other author or editor can be that ballsy in todays industry
The closest I can think that does it too is Fumetsu no Anata e, but that one at least keeps the core main character

Billy Bat killed off the main character midway through the story and introduced a new one. More actual spoilers: He ended up being a live and coming back near the end but it was something that still happened.

I doubt golden kamuy will go on for a decade. Almost every tattooed skin has been collected and we're about to get another one in this arc. Unless they go for a very long endgame I don't see it exceeding 400 chapters and even if they do, I don't see it getting past 450 without nosediving in terms of quality.

I think the fanbase in general was more open to series that ran for 100+ chapters years ago. Now everyone prefers a short quality story over an overload of content. I couldn't see myself getting into another long running series, but I still thoroughly enjoy the ones I'm still finishing.

Urawasa kills his MCs often. He pulled it in Pluto and he faked it in 20th century boys. Honestly, the story is worse off for it almost every time he does it.

Same actually, I don't wanna get too deeply involved with any more long runners like Berserk or anything that's already been going on for a few years without it ending first, I just don't think it's worth the risk of getting burned

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Berserk's issue is much different from lasting a long time. It would probably be finished already if it came out regularly. Same with HXH.

I just can't do the waiting game anymore. I want to read stories with a definitive end to it, or at least if it has to continue, at least know where to end it for the time being. I've got no problem with *sequels* but sometimes things can feel too long in the tooth when you've been around for over thirty plus years but the characters you got yourself invested in have merely been through two years worth of adventures. Nowadays I'm looking for stories that have endings to them. I'd like to move on to brand new settings and premises rather than having ten different manga series I'm following, this is what I favored east over west to begin with, aside from the obvious fact that a characters writers isn't always changing hands.

I like them, but I think only action and supernatural oriented series can make it work. There has to be a lot of room for escalation in the scope of the conflict and plenty of different locations to explore in the world. OP's setting lends itself to this better than pretty much anything else.

I think it worked fine for Bleach. The issue was mostly that the Arrancar arc felt stretched out and the Fullburger arc felt like it interrupted the flow. The general structure of the story from small time human world shenanigans -> breaking into SS -> Aizen's rebellion -> the final war was solid, but I can see why some people would have wanted it to end with Aizen.

I-I-IT DOESN’T COUNT

There's a difference between "long runners" that are long because they have a lot of content, because they come out on a less frequent schedule, or because they're frequently on hiatus.

Hmm, I agree. The only thing that came close in terms of massive shifts recently was Fire Punch IMO. And that wasn't even close to long-running, more like a flash in the pan. I don't know if anyone could pull off something like JOJO today.